having trouble finding a main

Entrapment··1 votes·1,190 views

i really want to be able to carry games and i know that at low elo where i am any champion can carry but i am having trouble finding a champion that i can carry with. i want to play adc but i usually dont work well with my support and are not on the same page so we die. is there a way i can bo good at adc without relying on my support? im not sure if playing support will be good with the new storm razor but idk. what adc is good to carry with now? i have experience with kog maw but sometimes i just die to quick to be usefull.

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VoraciousX1 votes

Lucian should be pretty easy for just about anyone, though he's probably not as good as he usually is right now during these patches. Ezreal(not doing too well in NA rn) and Caitlyn have long range poke so you can play safer with those two. Jinx or Miss Fortune are kind of simple champions(Jinx especially), and Jinx is doing pretty well in NA.

Hencho1011 votes

Lucian is a really good carry, but not in the best spot in this Meta to my knowledge. Tristana and Caitlyn are very long range and very strong carries, Varus has some one best best late games out of most ADCs. But if your REALLY looking to try and carry, wanting to spending time to learn a champion, understanding how they work and when to use what, and almost get a new main champion, and not just play them because you want to carry. Twitch is one of, if not THE best carry in the game. He has some of the BEST team fight out of any ADCs, and can snow ball easily, his early game on the other hand is HORRIBLE. Learn not to feed and how to position, and you can almost solo carry games with him.

OurLestrade1 votes

Lucian's the most independent ADC, he may not be "viable" but in my experience everything is viable if you put the time into it. I've mained the same champions through thick and thin regardless of viability and done fine.

Doge20201 votes

I would also recommend watching YouTube videos about a champ or role that you want to main. And look up guides can be helpful as well.

Rebel Phoenix171 votes

According to your op.gg you do not currently main ADC, having only played 5 Ez games out of 54 ranked this season (no other ADCs) Recent history shows a bunch of Jhin. I can't gather that much info about how you play bot lane, so here is general advice:

  • Your KDA's are low. All but 1 of your top 7 played have more deaths than kills - you are only staying above 1.00 by having high assist counts (which is good). Without watching a game I can't know exactly why your deaths are so high, but you should focus on surviving more - whether its not getting caught greeding, or not diving too deep etc. This is something I struggle with a lot, but you have to think about it.

  • You're CS/M is very low. Reach goal is 10/m. As an example doublelift's lowest in his top 7 is 8.9 on Jhin, everyone else is above 9. Obviously don't expect to get that high, but you currently have an average 2.7 on Fizz. Your most played (Riven) is 4.3, and Ezreal is 3.2. Minions are the #1 source of gold in league.


To help you find ADCs to play:

What other ADCs have you practiced?

What is your preferred playstyle? Do you want to fight early, teamfight mid or hyperscale late? This has a huge impact on the champ you should prioritize because it will determine _how _ you carry

To improve your odds of carrying think about the following:

What is your win condition in a given game? What is your teams win condition? Ideally the answer is the same, but in many cases it won't be. How can you make the best of different win conditions?

Are you being flexible with your playstyle based on the champion your support picks and the tendencies they show early game?

Entrapment1 votes

I do like to trade in lane and kill them when they are low. I am good at zoneing minions. I have played early champions and usually I can't close the game and it gets to late and I become useless. I feel like trying draven and snowballing but I also want to try kog maw because he is mentioned to have a bad early but in my games my early game isn't so bad. I feel like one of my problems is I really rely on my support a lot and where my elo is the supports don't save you a lot. I think I need a adc that can be played aggressive without needing a support to save him. That is why I thought draven because his trades are so good as long as you know how to play him. I do play jhin but I'm not sure how good I am at him. So all in all the adc that I would love is one that trades nicly but still has a late game. Not sure if that exists but I will try to find it if it does.

Rebel Phoenix171 votes

draven because his trades are so good as long as you know how to play him.

Draven is a little odd, and mastering him over 100s of games is key. He has very strong early game, and his passive means he will scale faster than his opponents if he gets kills. The problem comes when you don't get those kills, as without a substantial gold lead he isn't that impressive. He still has an ok late game, but its because he's intended to hit his late game faster than others and close games b4 they reach theirs.

Given what I saw on your op.gg I probably wouldn't recommend Draven. Draven has the 2nd lowest death count of all ADCs - not because he has good defensive tools, but because practiced Dravens prioritize conserving and cashing in stacks. Historically you have a lot of deaths in your games, so unless you can fix that, you may well struggle to cash in. Again I haven't seen your games so I could easily be off the mark.

Also, Draven apparently has an abysmally low win rate at full build according to champion.gg, so if you struggle to close games i wouldn't recommend.

kog maw because he is mentioned to have a bad early but in my games my early game isn't so bad

Kog's early laning is actually good. Its after 1st back that he'll struggle if even in gold. He will rely a lot on his support to make it from that point to his item spike at Hurricane + Rageblade. The best way for kog to win currently is actually with a dmg support that has CC - Lux, Zyra, and blitz are the three "highest synergy supports" currently.

Many hyperscaling ADCs have a good start to lane, but can't compete with mid game ADCs after items start being purchased. They have strong trades with dorans blade because it gives them an avenue to their late game aside from slow farming and stalling the game. If you get kills early and outgold your opponent you will be able to compete (not necessarily win) in the mid game.

Cait and Trist are good examples. Cait can shove hard at lvl 1 with Q, or if her support brings CC can take traps to chunk her lane opponent lvl 1. Her long range lets her harass at the enemies tower, so they are too low to take a fight. Her headshots will make her good at taking first brick. Doing this you can build a large CS lead and take tower to amass a gold lead, or you can kill them with traps and E>Q combos for a gold lead. Even then, if you are against, lets say MF, you could be sitting at IE Zeal Boots, to her Essence Reaver, and she will beat you in a teamfight. To stay ahead you need to farm, and pressure objectives, and only take teamfights that you can win because of another factor (caught enemy mid / 4v2 / they're diving under tower etc)

If you slip up, and your opponent gets a gold lead through CS/tower/kills Cait will probably feel useless until 3+ items.

Trist is similar, her E makes her extraordinary at taking towers at all stages of the game. Her W charging her E gives her a strong early game burst with a support that will initiate. If you don't have an initiator just shove with her E passive, ward so you don't get ganked and keep the enemy under turret. Attack them to try and make them slip up and lose farm.

W/o a gold least, Trist will also feel useless until 2/3+ items.

So if you want strong early and strong late you have choices like: Tristana Caitlyn Vayne Jinx Varus. Ezreal also but he's more reliant on poke than the others. On all of these champs the most important thing for you to do is CS better and die less. None of them require kills to get/stay ahead. They can all pressure and gain farm leads. That pressure can sometimes convert to kills.

If you want strong early to get kills and snowball you have choices like: MissFortune Draven Lucian . The most important thing here is to reduce your deaths and convert on kills. You can go 21/3 and lose because you didn't take objectives after kills. After every kill assess the following:

  • Who could show up to clean up kills?
  • How long until they can get here?
  • What objectives can we gain now that X is off the map?
  • Answers should include and be decided in the following priority: Baron/Elder > Dragon/Herald/Towers > JG camps/CS
  • Adjust your decision by proximity, health, and time. Baron might be the best objective, but if ur half HP and on bot its not a choice anymore
  • Ideally you do not recall immediately after a kill. Unless someone is on the way to kill you, you should always at least shove the minions into the enemy tower.
Doge20201 votes

Yo I can play supp with you if you need somebody. I won´t be able to play everyday tho

Paroe1 votes

Ezreal or lucian is a very safe bet - If you dont like ezreals sheen build, he can still work with traditional marksmen builds. Ezreal is bar none the safest ADC in the game.

ChizPizaZane1 votes

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Ezreal or lucian is a very safe bet - If you dont like ezreals sheen build, he can still work with traditional marksmen builds. Ezreal is bar none the safest ADC in the game.

Tristana you serious?

Paroe1 votes

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Tristana you serious?

Ezreals flash is miles better than tristanas dash.

ChizPizaZane1 votes

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Ezreals flash is miles better than tristanas dash.

Her jump isn't her only form of safety, she has her ult and passive

rtbf2234347211 votes

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