Lethality can't be counter played

Periodic··5 votes·6,550 views

Why would riot buff lethality, making actually every tank in any elo above silver 5 completely useless. I work my way up to silver 1 and get shit on by full lethality ad hyper carry assassins who actually deal 3k damage a second, if there was a counter play to them i wouldnt be mad but a kha rengar riven varus or fiora can just walk into any tower in a 1v3 and just instanatly kill 2-3 poeple of there choice. building any armour at all is next to useless unless you are in turn getting 6 thornmaills, but you are still geting killed in 2 seconds from the nearly 100 lethality on them when they have runes and all of the items for it, and then when they pair it with black clever and or lord dominik's regards or mortal reminder, basically shredding through approxomitley 75% of your armour already without lethality alone. If there was an actual way to counter play other than completely changing my playstyle and stop playing the champs I like then this game is actually questionable. ESPECIALLY since you cant control who gets fed on the enemy team and if your team feeds in solo duo queue to start with.

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Touch My Box6 votes

So if armor doesn't do much, build health?

TheFallenShaw4 votes

One guy here actually knows the right answer to countering leth

Sett up 4my gank2 votes

I mean to be fair, armor IS the counter to lethality. Yes they can get black cleaver lord doms and flat pen and shred tanks but that is because tank stats fall off late game. They are designed to be super tanky early and mid then fall off once people hit 4 items or so.

TheFallenShaw2 votes

wrong armor is not the counter to lethality. Lethality or what used tobe penatration was put in the game to counter Armor. Armor only counters Damage. The counter to Lethality builds is HP.

Sett up 4my gank4 votes

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wrong armor is not the counter to lethality. Lethality or what used tobe penatration was put in the game to counter Armor. Armor only counters Damage. The counter to Lethality builds is HP.

I'm sorry man but you are just wrong. While health helps against lethality lethality is not a counter to armor. taking 50 armor off someone who has 150 armor and taking 50 armor off someone who has 60 armor for example. You only take 33% of the first guys armor but take 80+ % of the second guys. to get 50 lethality you need runes mastery and a ghost blade and serrated and level 15 ish. Where as black cleaver will remove 30% of their armor with a single item regardless of your level and what your runes / masteries are. Armor is the counter to lethality not the other way around.

slaga slasha1 votes

looking at it from another angle, if I have 150 armour and 50 of it is being ignored, that is an entire item of armor. If I am not a straight up tank with 3-4 items to build armor with, then would my gold be better spent getting hp that leathality doesn't help against? Or should I just go for the plentiful number of armor/hp combo items and say a mix of both is best? there hasn't been enough experimentation to figure it out imho.

Sett up 4my gank1 votes

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looking at it from another angle, if I have 150 armour and 50 of it is being ignored, that is an entire item of armor. If I am not a straight up tank with 3-4 items to build armor with, then would my gold be better spent getting hp that leathality doesn't help against? Or should I just go for the plentiful number of armor/hp combo items and say a mix of both is best? there hasn't been enough experimentation to figure it out imho.

Lethality does help vs HP more than armor, basically the more armor they shred the more % damage you are going to take, if you have 2500 base health, and take 50% damage reduction you effectively have 5000 health. where as if you have 3000 base health but have 25% damage reduction you only have effectively 3750.

Touch My Box2 votes

What you should have said it "It cant feasibly be counterplayed by carry roles"

Aljonau1 votes

Ekko Gragas Swain tend to disagree item 3157 item 3026 item 3027 item 3116

only adcs are fucked.. but they were fucked in every asassinmeta.. game is only fun for tanks and asassins in asassin meta, thats why tankmeta is best, at least nobody abuses it that hard, because so few ppl play tanks.

SirTeemoMushroom1 votes

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TheFallenShaw1 votes

there is a counter its called HP... HP is the counter to Lethality. As Lethality is the counter to Armor. I'd say more but if you need that.... um... i suggest doing the tutorial again.

ItsOrval1 votes

Lethalty is good against people who dont build armor/health. All you need is these two items and it basically ruins full lethalty builds: item 3026 item 3742

byakugan1231 votes

i mean why did you say this when they had armor penetration? its literally just a weaker version of armor pen until level 18????

SømeGuy1 votes

Leth needs the nerf!! don't "nerf" the items fix the damn thing there is zero counter play against this. Combined with crit you can hit for 1100 shredding armor.

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