@RIOT, I'm getting sick of only playing Evelynn...

Tormentula··1 votes·331 views

...because every other AP jungler is absolutely shit right now:

Nidalee 40.45% Elise 47.7% Gragas 46.7% Fiddlesticks 47.51% Ekko 43.91% Fizz 44.82% Diana 47.25%

The only good AP junglers right now are the ones that build tank (or should be building tank), and rumble, evelynn is the only AP carry jungler that's actually doing fine right now. When are you giving buffs to make up for rylais and blue buff to the ap jungle you dumbstered this preseason?

As well as fix these so maybe AP junglers aren't bullied like they're in highschool? Vi Zac Hecarim LeeSin (idc that you nerfed his ult, that don't do shit for his pre 6 out of control snowball.)

I understand the difficulty in fixing Fiddlesticks , and that Ekko Fizz Diana should be balanced around their primary positions, but whats the excuse for leaving Nidalee and Gragas in the state they're in? Actually link me a red post as to why blue buff's AP was even removed if I missed it.

Merry Christmas, but can your christmas gift to us, for all the RP we gave to you this holiday, be actually fixing the jungle this new year?

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GigglesO2 votes

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When you are giving buffs to make up for rylais

Isn't going to happen for atleast a few champions, who were even designed to use it as a core item. Mordekaiser

SGT Dingle Berry1 votes

Sejuani can be devastating if built tanky AP. Her biggest drawback is her early clear but so is Evelynn

Tormentula1 votes

The thing with Sejuani Amumu Malphite is they're late game champions. They're meant to have weak early games and scale harder into the late game. They don't need to get fed to be useful until the nexus explodes, they just need to exist and get a good ultimate or two and win their team the game.

Evelynn Elise Nidalee etc are early game champions, they don't scale well the longer the game goes and rely on their early game pressure to snowball and carry the game. Evelynn is weak in her clear because she's so strong in killing people by surprise that she can snowball uncontrollably and carry, which is surprisingly healthier right now than it sounds. However Elise and Nidalee don't have as easy as a time securing kills and with the new jungle, they either lose 1v1 to most of the meta jungles like lee, hec, and vi, and their ganks are super reliant on their team to set them up and them to land their skill shots. The longer the game goes, the more useless they become. Their clear speeds are also average right now compared to what they were in season 6 due to how much health the new jungle has.

Eve is good because her playstyle fits in about any meta and its hard to really catch a good eve out and counter gank her as the other meta junglers, but Elise, Nids, etc all can be 100-0'd early, mid, and late game by the other meta junglers right now. Surprisingly, eve's clear is pretty decent cause her Q goes through all the raptors and easily kills krugs, and heals off talimen. Elise has a highish rank 1 cooldown on her AOE making those camps take awhile, and nidalee just flat out can do those camps early.

This post might be sloppy, but my point is the champions who are meant to be dominating early, are failing at doing so right now, and champions that are meant to pop off mid game, are doing perfectly fine if not better than AP junglers early game.

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