Why does it feel like ADCs have no agency in a game?

Sylphic··5 votes·2,571 views

It's always a snowballing top or mid laner. Riot needs to fix their game.

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Kazekiba4 votes

I didn't know Riot hosted a Bizarro Server; GareNA?

Does Nrevi have his 12th skin yet in your server?

Altonat2 votes

ADCs used to have more impact when the late game was actually a decent length. With everything suddenly ending 5-10 minutes earlier than it used to 2 years ago, they don't have as much of a chance to shine. You might as well play a juggernaut or mage of some kind.

The thigh guy2 votes

Adcs don’t have impact anyone more adcs need more gold just to come online than most other champions.

Renekton? Online in just sos Talon? Just need duskblade Insert mage here? Ludens and they’re good Tank? Nice meme. Tanks are never online

Sivir? Yeah you need, item 3031 item 3046 and item 3508 then you’re good to go.

Lovelle1 votes

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Adcs don’t have impact anyone more adcs need more gold just to come online than most other champions.

Renekton? Online in just sos Talon? Just need duskblade Insert mage here? Ludens and they’re good Tank? Nice meme. Tanks are never online

Sivir? Yeah you need, item 3031 item 3046 and item 3508 then you’re good to go.

Renekton is online with just Doran's, he doesn't need SoS.

hhaavviikk2 votes

imagine that, a late game hyper carry class can't snowball it's early game, truly shocking, what's next? expressing surprise when a early game champion can't carry late game?

Daddy Ants1 votes

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imagine that, a late game hyper carry class can't snowball it's early game, truly shocking, what's next? expressing surprise when a early game champion can't carry late game?

Not every ADC is a late game hypercarry though.

Ashe Draven Ezreal Jhin Kalista Lucian MissFortune Varus are not hypercarries.

Lukaatrox2 votes

Draven, ezreal, jhin and kallista are hypercarries imo

Daddy Ants1 votes

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Draven, ezreal, jhin and kallista are hypercarries imo

no they are not.

Kalista is an early game ADC.

Draven is an early game ADC.

Jhin is a mid game adc.

Ezreal is a mid game adc.

hhaavviikk2 votes

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Not every ADC is a late game hypercarry though.

Ashe Draven Ezreal Jhin Kalista Lucian MissFortune Varus are not hypercarries.

Every single ADC is a late game hyper carry by virtue of being a ranged ADC, if you build full crit you are a late game hyper carry, nothing can beat the damage output of a fully built late game crit ADC as they can dish out consistent burst damage not limited to cooldowns. I say that but with the power of lethality you don't even need full crit to be a hyper carry as an ADC, on-hit also works, point is ADC's are hyper carries because of their range.

Some adc's are stronger late game than others, however ALL ADC's are very strong late game, doesn't matter which ADC we're talking about.

DOUBLE TAPPED E1 votes

ADCs have as much agency as their support gives them. That's the trouble with having a game where the meta is "not" enforced by the developer.

Daddy Ants1 votes

Because first 10-15 minutes are decided by Mid, Top and Jungle.

All it takes is 1 of them to shit the bed and start soft inting and it's near impossible for bot lane to have an impact.

Lovelle1 votes

Aside from like Ashe and Varus, they're squishy damage dealers with little to no utility.

As a general rule, the less utility a champ has, the less agency they have over the outcome of a game. If they get behind, they stay behind unless the opponent throws. This is even more so the case if the champ is squishy.

2Charmnot2Charm1 votes

It's always ~~a snowballing top or mid laner. ~~ the support

Fixed that for you.

Better Support wins bot lane (unless the adc for said support is a total monkey).

Lukaatrox1 votes

Just play Jhin, Lucian or Miss Fortune if you wanna be strong early. With the exception of Lucian, all ADC's scale really hard late game so you just have to play around it. Its like playing Vladimir and complaining that he has a terrible csing kit early game

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