The rework vayne deserves.

HolyCrapItsMe·9/7/2015, 12:11:05 PM·1 votes·3,453 views

So heres what im thinking, vayne is currently a no-counter-play monster because of her obnoxious kit (yes im a bit butthurt, sue me), She has loads of self peel with her E, super low cooldown on her Q making her untouchable and excuse me, but true damage as precent of max health damage is pure bullshit, also her passive makes her impossible to escape, so you cant catch her and you cant escape from her, the only way to counter her is to fight her 3v1 (at least) which means they can 4v2 or take objectives freely just because you want to kill her... so heres what im thinking, a rework suggestion that wont gut her, but will definitelly give her a niche (which riot wants) and leave her viable.

Passive (new): Vayne cant deal critical damage, instead her crits deal true damage instead of physical damage. (This gives her much less damage than other ADC but it crushes tanks and gives her loads of late game power.)

Q (changed): Vayne now turns invisible whenever she tumbles (not only during ult) but has a longer cooldown (3.5 seconds at max rank after the bolt is fired, instead of 2) and the shot always crits.

W (new): vayne passivally gains 30 movement speed when moving towards enemy champions. when activated this effect doubles.

E (nerfed): Works the same but impaling the enemy stuns of 0.5 seconds down from 1.5 seconds. OR snares them for 1.5 seconds instead of stunning. (Am I the only one that thinks that a 1.5 second stun on an ADC is crazy? even assasssins dont have this kind of CC.) also, the damage deals 5/5.5/6/6.5/7% of the targets max health in physical damage, can crit for true damage. remember that this can happen twice, dealing a total of 14% of the targets health in true damage. (maybe lower the throw distance by like 50-75 units)

R (New): Gives vayne a 100% crit chance, lowers tumbles cooldown by 1 second, automatically activates W for the duration of the ability and she gains 30/40/50 AD for 12/13.5/15 seconds.

Id love to hear your opinions, I think this is balanced but Im not perfect, So I might be wrong. This is also my first discussion, so sorry if I messed something up and Im not a native english speaker, so I apologize for any mistakes in my english.

29 Comments

Aryotron1/13/2016, 12:35:19 PM3 votes

Jax HEYYYY VAYYYNE WANNA TALK ABOUT STREET LAMP ??? HERE IT IS IN YOUR MOUTH item 3078 HELL YEAH

Eašy11/10/2015, 3:10:10 AM2 votes

its not hard to counter vayne.pick cc,pick trist/cait/draven,focus her and boom she's dead

Fat Bastard GOD1/13/2016, 12:56:48 PM1 votes

This literally makes Vayne EXTREMELY broken. Lvl6 cheese with 100% crits dealing true damage? LOL. The problem with your post is you stated that Vaynes true damage and kit is obnoxious, yet your idea makes her even more obnoxious.

• Invisibility/AD steroid/mobility on a 1 second cooldown at lvl 6 or any level is pretty absurd.

• Giving her garenteed crits on her Q would also make her early trading extremely potent.

If she is playing against a tanky support, most likely at lvl6 she is ought to cheese them because of her true damage autos. Those + 22 armor runes won't save you now!

In Conclusion You actually gave her massive early game power, though it might not be as effective at that point because nobody has built armor, but plowing through enemies armor runes/base stats so early wouldn't exactly be fair. It seems almost your rework idea would make Twitch cry. Sorry if my post sounds a bit harsh. Welcome to boards, good post, I liked your argument, it is true.

Akenero1/13/2016, 3:59:47 PM1 votes

THIS IS EVEN WORSE WHAT THE HELL Okay, let's see, 100%crit Runaans

LadyRenly1/22/2016, 1:33:06 AM1 votes

If you are going to be salty about Vayne, at least know what you are talking about. You can most definitely catch her, her passive only works when she is moving towards an enemy champion

LF Annie1/23/2016, 4:23:53 PM1 votes

if you really have trouble against vayne, play Teemo. biggest vayne killer on the planet.

Dedrius1/23/2016, 8:18:56 PM1 votes

You think that giving vayne true damage for crits would make her LESS broken? You took away the fact that she needs 3 hits to kill tanks and just let her do it every AA. I think vayne is fine how she is but this would make her 100% pick/ban.

Sniper 01/23/2016, 8:20:49 PM1 votes

Vayne has actually been overshadowed in the current meta. The way Lord dom's kinda makes every adc shred tanks now... lol She has lost her niche... =.=

Sneakyy XD1/24/2016, 11:01:58 AM1 votes

She doesn't need a rework. She just needs her W to not do true damage that scales off of the enemy's max health.

nationalsgo2/16/2016, 11:02:05 PM1 votes

BUT VAYNe cant crit so heR ult is useless.

Aryotron1/13/2016, 12:33:16 PM1 votes

lol typical NA