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[Controversial]: What DotA has that League doesn't

shyie·3/23/2016, 11:07:40 PM·2 votes·1,299 views

DISCLAIMER THIS IS NOT A TARGETTED POST TO RIOT IT IS AN INFORMATIVE POST ON WHAT I BELIEVE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOTA AND LEAGUE IS NONE OF THIS IS TO BE TAKEN PERSONALLY NOR TOO SERIOUSLY

I'll get straight into it.

For as long as MOBA was considered a genre, the 2 dominant forces in the industry are DotA and League, DotA being the first one to pioneer all MOBAs. Both are extremely competitive, huge in esports, and great games in general. Despite this, there are differences that can't be said about the 2 without comparing them, but because this is a League forum, I'll focus on League, and specifically what it can learn from DotA.

Acessibility

DotA from the start has all it's heroes unlocked, giving beginners favor and there's no need for too much grinding. The client is simple, sleek, and what seperates it from League is it's versatility. Much like Smite, you can watch videos, keep track of news, and even test out heroes while in queue or anywhere, right there in the client. League has a great client nonetheless, but it could use some work on maybe making queue times (which are infamously long nowadays) less frustrating.

Community

Most of you saw this one coming. DotA community is great. Welcoming and normally friendly, the communication you have within game only makes it easier for people to interact. Pings are and issue to address, as DotA has amazing pings. Sounds silly, but they have pings that could be used in League, and I'm sure objectives, MIA and compliments can be given easier. Although this is more a gameplay issue, DotA is such a difficult game to master, no one really gets mad over mistakes, small or big. Of course, there are nasty people, but overall it's more mature and well rounded.

Company to Consumer

All over these boards Riot employees attempt ("") to answer as much as they can. However, they ignore some of the biggest things like refunds or gameplay. DotA doesn't. A lot of DotA in game influence comes from players, and so much is done because Valve and it's community can talk easier. Staff in DotA aren't afraid to talk, whether it might piss people off or not. It's more of a connection rather than a one sided window like it is for League.

A Smart System

AFKs and connection problems, leading to queues have always been a pet peeve of the player base for League. But, League I'll admit is harsh, and no matter how you say it, if you can't get into a game without waiting 20 minutes you will be frustrated. I've seen people saying "it's your fault" to "the leavebuster system sucks". DotA handles this quite well. Once disconnectivity issues are detected, you have 2 options. Leave without punishment, or play the game for fun. Someone AFKs? You can leave and the game won't be counted. How great is that? You will get a queue for AFK-ing, but at least there are alternatives for those in ranked and people who want to play competitively.

Turrets

Turrets do their job well in DotA, they defend you. Someone diving you? They're not likely to survive, even if they manage to kill you. Simple concept, but League towers are kinda stupid.

Downvote the post if you want. Just wanted to put somethings out there. You're entitled to what you think, and that's fine.

Have a good day guys.

5 Comments

Slythion3/23/2016, 11:14:26 PM1 votes

Half these things are the opposite of my views for league/dota...

Parafex3/23/2016, 11:45:40 PM1 votes

I am sorry but

I've seen people saying "it's your fault" to "the leavebuster system sucks". DotA handles this quite well. Once disconnectivity issues are detected, you have 2 options. Leave without punishment, or play the game for fun. Someone AFKs? You can leave and the game won't be counted. How great is that? You will get a queue for AFK-ing, but at least there are alternatives for those in ranked and people who want to play competitively.

That is absolutely positively vacuous, That system probably encourages AFK from the sound of it, Played DOTA once and after it getting paused multiple times for connection or someone choosing to pause I decided how fucking dumb it was that I was sitting there waiting for that on a game I just started, pathetic if you ask me, Riot having a system like that would mean certain part of the player base would see nothing wrong with AFK and do it whenever they feel like, Then when playing ranked they just afk? What they get matched with other AFK? So instead of not allowing them to play for a certain amount of time they throw them in a pit of toxic waste players? Wow what a great system Riot should do that, Matter of fact just do what GTA5 did and throw griefing players all into the same game(Sarcasm). Why the hell would anyone want a entire part of the community in a competitive game where their connection is so bad that they hold back their team mates again and again!? if you have connection issues you get it sorted or you don't play League, If you have no legs you dont play Football, Simple as that. League does not have a "One sided window" whatever you are trying to imply on that I can not imagine because thats false in every meaning of the word, Ever messaged Riot support for help on something? Obviously not, Definitely not a one sided window. Dota will die as soon as something better comes along much like games in the FPS section, Notice how League is not even in the client? Thats because League is League, its not some other game, ITS LEAGUE OF LEGENDS. You post ON THE BOARDS about a one sided window???!!??! THEY HAVE A TRACKER OF RIOT EMPLOYEES BUILT IN ON HERE FOR GOD SAKES LOL. League has its fair share of connection issues sure, But again, Riot has kept League as League, Its not being helped by Steam, League is helping itself and I am sure that causes issues that Dota may not have, Either way Riot ignores things? Maybe thats because sometimes its best to? They are not on the boards to create conflict, They are here to inform and see what the community is talking about. What are the big issues that Riot is ignoring?!? LEAGUE TOWERS ARE STUPID? THATS WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY? LMFAO, ITS A DIFFERENT GAME. I assume you are like 10 at this point so I wont be rude but damn, Come on... You think Dota would win in a quality match? No, Competitive? No, Is it older? Yes, Is it easier to find because its on Stream? Yes, Is its player base mostly really veteran or really new? Yes. Dota is Dota, League is League. Ever think people feel like Dota is less toxic maybe because people care more/ Are more passionate about the game at lower level? You are talking like a person who has not played much of either game, And you also comment on queue times, You are obviously not ranked in League probably not even 30, You have long queue times? Because you didnt say that you did or didnt rather that League queue's are "infamously long" at fucking high elo maybe, When I played Dota for the first time I instantly found a match, And got into game followed by several pauses, After sitting and waiting because of CONNECTION ISSUES I ASSUME, I just left because it was not worth my time, Notice how they both have connection issues? I promise you that League has less because they handle it better, You probably see it different because from the sounds of it your connection must be awful if you keep dc'ing, If you dont want to be competitive in League then not much reason to keep playing unless you genuinely enjoy playing it for the sake of doing it or to play with friends. You also said that this is not meant to be taken seriously? Because I didnt see any jokes? You just pointed out flaws that are not flaws but things that YOU dont like about League, Either way I spent way too much time typing this whatever else you said I am just going to leave it because I could type a billion word essay on why you are wrong on every reason you gave and considering you said League's turrets were "stupid" I highly doubt you could go on for your reasoning much more than that. BUT HEY DONT TAKE WHAT I SAID TOO SERIOUSLY and by that I mean, You obviously added that assuming people were going to disagree, Loads of people hate League, most of the reasons are just pathetic but those people exist, Go talk to them about how League turrets are stupid.

edit I may of taken it both personally and seriously, Oops. No way i am proof reading this long ass reply so I will just mark my mistakes off as me not taking the post seriously because thats a thing apparently.