WE FORGOT ABOUT THE JUNGLE PLANTS

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i dont hate the plants, they're just biased and give certain champs more power than others.

lee sin and ivern hardly benefit at all from red plants. but on eve its amazing to increase clear speed and escape/gap close potential.

Why do Lee Sin and Ivern gethardly any benefit at all? I honestly can't think of any champion that doesn't get any benefit from the Blasting Cone. Even the champions who have ways to hop over walls, have cooldowns and resource costs Lee Sin has to use a trinket and his Safeguard to jump over walls, which means they are both on cooldown. Ivern can only jump to targets that he has landed Rootcaller on, .. another cooldown, mana cost, and low opportunity placement. ... Please explain more if you could because I am genuinely curious.

green plant is worthless on everyone except a roaming laner who wants to top off before their next engage. its never a difference between taking an additional camp or not, or being capable of ganking vs not ganking as a jungler.

A free sustain source is only worthless on champions who are full health or have superior sustain from their kit or build. There is bound to be someone on your team who can utilize these. And they are definitely strong for roaming champions, but they are also positioned near major objectives like Dragon, Rift Herald, and Baron.

blue is easily the most widely sought after, but it just feels awkward on any ranged champ having to straddle to get it in the spot you want it in.

I'm actually a incredibly surprised to hear a second person complain about the 'difficulty' caused by the range discrepancy when attacking the Scryer's Bloom. I honestly don't see what the big deal is. It isn't exactly a skill shot. You have a very long and fairly wide cone that shows you exactly what area will be revealed before you attack the plant. You don't need to line it up just right, just get close and fire.