Ask a Shaco Main - Chinese Jester - Completed

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We’re excited to welcome Chinese Jester to kick off June’s “Ask a Champion Main!” This Shaco main’s been playing League of Legends since Season 2 with over 5000 Shaco games.

He’s brought with him a wealth of info on juking, flanking, and dominating the jungle as the Demon Jester.

UPDATE - This AMA is officially closed but Chinese Jester will be checking in periodically tonight and tomorrow to answer a couple more of your questions.

Thanks for all of the great questions and a big thank you to Chinese Jester for hanging out!


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How did you get into League of Legends?

I was in my junior year of high school and discovered it just before Summer break began. I had just begun watching Justin TV and saw incarnati0n’s Fizz (Jensen). Originally, friends in my physics class introduced me to the game and I thoroughly enjoyed how competitive each game was.

Where do your Summoner names come from?

My Summoner name “Chinese Jester” comes from the fact that I am Chinese and Shaco is a Jester. However, originally when I began playing League it was “BDMeta”, because of how much Shaco would backdoor in the old days. My second name change was YouMatter, as I got more into charities.

What got you hooked on playing Shaco?

Since season 2, Shaco has been a champion that would solo carry games and have high snowball ability. This resonated with me, because I have always been very critical of myself to play properly. If I mess up I deserve to lose, if I don’t play a perfect early game, I don’t deserve to win.

Additionally, Shaco was streamed a lot by EUW junglers at the time, so it was quite popular.

Who is your go-to champion if Shaco gets banned?

Elise is currently my go-to champion if Shaco gets banned. Originally in season 4-5 I would get banned out in 80%+ of my games so I would play Elise or dodge. However, Thresh is pretty fun.

If you could describe Shaco’s playstyle in a sentence, what would it be?

Shaco must read and understand every enemy and ally to create logical aggression.

What runes and masteries do you run on him?

For runes, the standard page is AD quints, AD marks, Armor seals, and AP blues.

For masteries I run 12/18/0, picking up Sorcery, Double-Edged Sword, Natural Talent, Oppressor, Savagery, Assassin, Merciless, Dangerous Game, Precision, and Thunderlord’s decree.

What is Shaco’s core item build?

Shaco’s core items are Youmuu’s, Mobility boots, Duskblade, and Infinity Edge (IE). Youmuu’s and Mobi’s give you what you need to pick and flank throughout the game, while Duskblade and IE give you the damage to burst.

What are Shaco’s easiest matchups? What are his toughest?

It’s hard to name specific easy matchups for Shaco without taking into account team composition:
  • Immobile enemies of any sort are good for Shaco. AD’s such as Twitch, Jhin, Ashe, Jinx are simpler to play against. Personally, I like playing against early game junglers such as Elise and Lee Sin, because Shaco has tools to outplay these champions. For example, a 0 ping Shaco should always be able to Q or W Lee Sin Q, Q Lee Sin’s E, and R Lee Sin’s R.
  • Shaco’s toughest matchups are Twisted Fate, Reksai, Lulu, Janna, Kayle and Kindred. Twisted Fate and Reksai essentially stop Shaco from moving as freely as he would want to. You’re not allowed to move deep into dangerous territory against these champions that can spot you and trail you in invisibility.
  • Lulu, Janna, Kayle, and pretty much anyone that stops you from one-shotting essential backliners are hard matchups, because you have to wait for them to expend their important defensive skills before you enter for a pick.
  • Kindred is a ranged AD jungler so she’ll always have the range advantage in 1v1ing you in the jungle as well as an ultimate that stops you from bursting an individual.
What is Shaco’s main job in laning phase? What about Teamfights?

Shaco’s job in the laning phase can consist of two different approaches:
  1. Snowball a particular, or all lane matchups. This allows for early first tier turrets, into map control, into objectives. From this point you just start stealing jungle camps, and out gold them until the game is over.
  2. Neutralize the enemy jungler. If I am stopping the enemy jungler from visiting lanes that should win naturally then it’s a net win.
Teamfighting scenarios with Shaco are very unique. Step 1 is to check if they have hard engage. If the enemy has hard engage you must either trust your team to play around that engage or play with your team, meaning no split pushing. Things such as peel skills, waveclear, and items such as Zhonyas make this decision simpler. If you decide to split you must be aware of objective rushes such as Baron. Never go bot side split pushing if they can rush baron leaving your team in a 5v4.

If you decide to group and teamfight you need to check for the following:
  • Press Tab and see all pink wards. You can never enter the fight if they have someone holding a pink ward, if you Q in, they put it down, you get turned on and die.
  • Have an angle of some sort. From the left, right, behind, somewhere creative that is clear of enemy vision using sweepers/pinks. Ideally, you also take into account enemy camera control to avoid getting your smoke seen.
If these conditions are met, you should wait for your team to engage, then you will move into the backline, backstab, Tiamat/Hydra (if you have it), E then auto for thunderlords. This will kill backliners TYPICALLY.

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If you believe there are enemies in transition to the teamfight location, you must read the map, and figure out if you can pick them off at red, blue, a camp, as they’re walking down the lane.

Shaco’s “teamfight” starts before a teamfight even begins.

If someone is playing Shaco for the first time, what is the most important thing to bear in mind?

You will get flamed. If you have even an average early game, other players will think you’re “behind,” because you’re playing Shaco. If you have a perfect early game you can still lose and get flamed, because Shaco isn’t a late game champion. Shaco’s late game isn’t HORRIBLE, it’s just not great.

Even then, if you go 4/0/3 in the lane phase by killing laners and the enemy Graves jungle sweeps up the cs when you push it to the turret and that results in them having 4x your cs, you will get flamed mid game, because the Graves is more useful. However, through all of this, you have to be level headed and make the most proper play you can.

What are your favorite ways to juke opponents with Shaco?
  1. Walk one way and Q the other way. Pretty simple.
  2. Walk one way, turn to a direction, then Q a different direction. The enemy may think you turned and Q’d late, so you may have“revealed” the direction of your Q.
  3. R and auto the enemy or stand still, move your clone away.
  4. R to go over a wall (about 40% of the time using Directional Input.)
How do you make the most out of Shaco’s Jack-in-the-Boxes?

You can use Shaco’s Jack-in-the-Boxes for a lot of things:
  1. Initial clear speed
  2. Vision defense/offense. Defending your laners from jungle ganks by leaving boxes in tri-brushes, river brushes or offensively leaving them in the enemy jungle for vision
  3. Placing them behind in ganks to block off escape routes
  4. Placing boxes to peel for your backline (I believe 2 boxes near each other still stop things like Malphite ult, credits to Pink Ward).

Box block

AD Shaco or AP Shaco?

I play exclusively AD assassin Shaco. Even though I believe bruiser Shaco has a higher win rate, I don’t play it, because you’re essentially a worse Lee Sin imo.

AP Shaco is fun, but you need an early game transition item such as Tiamat or Youmuu’s. It’s not my playstyle, but it works.

Have you played Shaco in other roles outside of Jungle? How did that go?

I’ve played Shaco Top, Mid and Support. Shaco Top is actually not bad, your split is almost the best in the game, you just need to get through lane phase.

Shaco Mid sucks and Shaco Support also sucks. If you wanna use 20% of your mana every time to Q E someone or put a bunch of boxes down and hope your cheese works, feel free.

What’s your favorite Shaco skin?

Asylum Shaco

Asylum, he’s upside down and as crazy as a jester should be. But, we all use Masked Shaco due to the white Q smoke.

What’s the best Shaco play you have ever pulled off?

I don’t have a clip, but it was in Season 4 I believe. A Syndra player (maybe Mancloud? Not sure) is chasing me through bottom river, because I have 20% HP so I run towards my first- tier bot turret. Their AD Draven flash auto’s me as their Syndra flash R’s me. I R to dodge the damage as well as steal Draven’s axe (if you ult Draven axes they disappear). I proceed to Q back, kill the Syndra, and my team grabs the Draven.

Thanks for taking the time to chat with us! If readers want to reach out, where can they find you?

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463 Comments

CLG Factor17 votes

Do you feel like a bad person?

Justin J Lee72 votes

Not really. I'm just playing the game like everyone else. In fact, I'm playing what I enjoy which is really all that anyone can ask for.

JayHog199211 votes

Best answer I ever seen written on the boards for now.

OIC4209 votes

This was very nicely written. Thanks for the great advice!

Justin J Lee21 votes

<3

Rand0mH3r0X8 votes

Would you like to apoligize?

Justin J Lee41 votes

Dear RandomH3RoX, I have sinned. But, I accept my sin and ask for forgiveness. For the darkness (Shaco) has engulfed me and from this I cannot return to the light. Please allow me to float in the darkness.

Miss Luxanna18 votes

Banish the shadows! Lux

JMoormann7 votes

Why is the good Shaco always on the enemy team?

StaircaseGone226 votes

I am a Chinese player who recently got into Shaco (and Elise). Seeing this made my day and feel like the world is one big coincidence. Shaco Elise

Justin J Lee10 votes

Big coincidence indeed. Elise is my second most played jungler and is extremely fun to me, because of her early game impact as well as having 6 proactive spells in the early game!

robelquis6 votes

where is shaclone.......................

Justin J Lee18 votes

FeelsBadMan

Mental Handicap5 votes

shaclone and pinkward things

Justin J Lee8 votes

PogChamp

Spideraxe5 votes

Do you take flash on Shaco? Cuz NB3 says its OPieOP

Justin J Lee11 votes

I did indeed like that video. I would recommend flash for newer players learning the champion, or just players who don't emphasize the early game as much as I do. There's nothing wrong with flash Shaco, but I feel that Shaco to a certain degree is unique, thus hyper early aggro ignite is slightly better for snowballing.

S H A Y C 06 votes

Best Answer NA.

Hi Im Shayc0 and I approve this message.

windwhispers4 votes

What do you think about Sunfire on Shaco?

S H A Y C 03 votes

Shayco prefers dead mansitem 3742

GhastlyPompano1 votes

Shaco chuckles as he puffs up behind Graves and instabursts him

Graves ded sounds

Shaco "I bought this for you with my extra 5000 gold" Drops item 3742 on graves

S H A Y C 03 votes

Oh, so you watch my stream*[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]*

Justin J Lee5 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Jesus is my bro3 votes

it's cool to see how you take time to reply to every single comment! keep up the good work

MartianMooCow2 votes

How do you sleep at night knowing you're weiner dog when you smurf

Justin J Lee9 votes

Woof Woof FrankerZ

Ragya2 votes

What are your thoughts on NIghblue's Crit Shaco build (warrior > yoummus > pd > ie > statik > triforce), add me I want to ask you a lot of questions and 1v1 me kid :D

Currently Plat 2 Wukong jungle main and love playing stealth champs...

Justin J Lee7 votes

I think its fun. It really picks up later on in the game which suits his style. He's not as proactive in the early game as I would like (which is fine, its playstyle). Its just that with the build you pick up a lot of your strength after your 4th item. Overall, you shouldn't expect to get multiple autos on a priority target unless its already a pick, in which case it doesn't matter what you build so long as you have damage.

You can add me xD

KEITHMCBRIETH2 votes

Do you think they will ever rework Shaco ?

Justin J Lee7 votes

I mean, Riots gone through most of the older champs, how long could it possibly be. Hopefully Season 7 inc.

MakeOutHiIIXXX1 votes

have you used the illumainati box method?

Justin J Lee8 votes

I have, but its a very rare occasion when playing jungle Shaco. The closest you really get is putting two boxes down. You're not really in one spot for too long unless you REALLY want to make a pick. As jungle Shaco you don't really want people to dash into you and get turned on by the "illuminati boxes" moreso, you wanna pick people proactively.

Svados1 votes
Justin J Lee30 votes

Quality of life change I suppose. Still waiting on that box radius indicator and hallucinate tether range.

Lirik1 votes

how to you feel about shaco in season 6 ? and how do you feel about encoutering premades that can get you out of your jungle ?

Justin J Lee17 votes

Season 6 Shaco is actually fairly weak compared to the previous season. The cumulation of pink wards being cheap, tiamat nerf, statik nerf, mobi changes, etc., as well as the rise of AD marksman junglers makes it rough.

Its actually fairly frustrating. As a solo player (I have pretty much exclusively queue'd alone, aside from occasions where I wanted to learn how it worked), if they're ever premade, you essentially lose your initial boxes. Shaco will get invaded a high percentage chance in these games. And without coms to teammates, even if I say to defend a certain place lvl 1 bot lane will still go bot and top lane will still go top a high percentage of the time. Because of this you concede early boxes a lot of the time, which is Shaco's biggest edge. Outside of that, I notice they have 10 pinks on them a lot of the time which makes teamfighting almost impossible/suicidal.

Defzone1 votes

summoner 4 or summoner 14

thicc as fuk1 votes

I'm a Shaco main but up until this season I never played him in ranked because of a fear of not playing the best in such a competitive environment. Last season I got p2 in soloq without playing Shaco. This season, being more confident in my abilities with Shaco, I took him into ranked. I'm currently p2 and want to get to diamond with Shaco but I feel like I have hit my wall again which is giving me second thoughts on playing Shaco in ranked.

My question is. Do you ever question or doubt yourself when playing Shaco in ranked?

Justin J Lee13 votes

All the time. And don't take this the wrong way, but lets be honest here. Shaco is not the best pick in most situations. That being said, doubt is something that happens when you believe that you are not playing 100%. There's always something to be improved upon, and which a champion like Shaco that's so early game dependent, if there's something you can do better then you should keep playing Shaco. Maybe Shaco isn't the most competitive pick, but you can make it work in dynamic queue. It's also a good feeling when you win the game as Shaco. Picking people off and snowballing is a rewarding feeling. Also, try to enjoy your games in general, that always helps!

3ofGot40ve1 votes

First off I want to say I watched your stream months and months ago, you actually inspired me to start getting a red trinket when I jungled. I havnt checked back in for months, sorry.

Also, what are your thoughts on invading as shaco after your first camp and using your ignite for first blood?

Justin J Lee5 votes

You don't need to apologize. Thanks for watching at all! <3

The thing about that classic Shaco invade is that it's easy to play around. Any early game wards in the river, the enemy jungler starting the buff, the enemy jungler going the other 2 camps on that side first into the buff. In fact, you can't guarantee that the enemy jungler will even be starting side without getting deep early wards of your own (which is hard since you don't invade as shaco level 1). Overall, its a bad strat and the enemy should play around it.

That being said, if you and the enemy jungler play the mind game (Shaco's not going to lvl 2 invade so I can be greedy with my clear and actually just do a normal route) then it could be an acceptable strat. Sometimes in higher elo, I'll do it randomly when playing against other junglers I've played against before to throw them off since they know I typically don't do it. But, this is only when you're in game against others you've already played against.

Wheatloaf1 votes

Why do so many Shaco mains have names relevant to the champion? I understand wanting your name to reflect a fun champion you play, but there seems to be a disproportionate amount of you.

Justin J Lee8 votes

Good point. I actually have no clue why as well. Although I imagine you find similar trends in one tricks. I know that for champions like Kha'zix have a large portion of related names. Honestly, if I could take it back I would. You know how many people message me in chinese... I can't read it xD I can only speak it. FeelsBadMan

Best Racecar NA1 votes

Hi, I am a shaco main and i generally build hydra, shiv, i.e., after chilling smite warrior enchant and then whatever else i may need, sometimes GA or others. I see you generally take Duskblade, but in what order do you generally build your items? Would you recommend me getting it instead of I.E. or just get it as the last item sometimes in place of GA Thankya!

Best Racecar NA1 votes

Also i have never heard of ulting over the wall how exactly is it done? I also put two boxes on gromp, and two in the bush by blue for an easier kill and ask for a leash but i am not sure if this is faster or better.

Justin J Lee3 votes

Its very hard and technical to ult over a wall. Basically TLDR, you use your clone to shove you over the wall during your ultimate since two champions/units cannot occupy the same space on summoners rift. So you use your clone to shift the position of Shaco (you) over 50% of the wall, and the game reads that as you having gone over the wall or being on that side of the wall.

Two on gromp and two on blue is fine.

Justin J Lee3 votes

The thing about duskblade is that it does well once you already have some damage, without damage it's only good if you have high base damage values (something Shaco does not innately have). As such I would still recommend jg item, tiamat/hydra, shiv, ie, then duskblade. IE is just more reliable than nightfall passive to kill the enemy. If you wanna play a GA style thats fine too.

Zëz1 votes

This is probably my favorite moment i've ever had playing shaco... A clutch backdoor is the best backdoor.

Justin J Lee3 votes

Best feeling Kreygasm

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