now that we have nerfed last whisper and made black cleaver more expensive and nerfed last whisper

Lsatellizer·Dec 4, 2015·2 votes·1,086 views

can we have a counter to the "get 2 shot by tanks" thing?

i mean of course you could build some health, but a giants belt on say... a vayne or kog, or corki would help of course, but then they get a titanic hydra which makes their damage scale off health. so why play an adc or marksman or whatever they are called. or you could play a tank and 1v3 and do triple the damage with helf the items?

Downvote if you agree.

19 Comments

BergkDec 4, 20156 votes

Titanic Hydra only deals 5+ 1% max HP as damage to the user's primary target. If the tank has 5,000hp, it adds 55 damage to their auto... Oooo TONS OF DAMAGE! Kappa The active is kind of scary though :P

LsatellizerDec 4, 20151 votes

Kappa extensive sarcasm

oh boy.. one of these... what did i expect from the league community, still have yet to see someone post anything on how to beat a tank.

BergkDec 4, 20151 votes

Which tank would you like to beat? It's very situational.

LsatellizerDec 4, 20151 votes

well all of them really. i understand you cant stand in garens spin as an ashe and expect to win. or expect to win in an auto trade against a malphite, or by existing anywhere on the map with tahm.

but i'd like to be able to kill these juggernauts or tanks or bruisers. and i feel that the fact they can out damage an ap mage or marksman until they get full 6 items is pretty insane... i mean why not just snowball and end the game before they can counter?

i LOVE kog and illaoi, they are so balanced, kog will melt your soul. and illaoi for the reasons mentioned above.

kog has the tank melter role, but most tanks can gapclose up to him and two shot him while eating tower shots like wheaties.

BergkDec 4, 20154 votes

first off saying illaoi is balanced is the biggest joke I've ever heard. She's more overpowered than any of the juggernauts.

Garen actually is terrible if you how to play against him. He only has a 13.5% win rate in Korean high elo play (I picked the Korean stat because they are known for having the most competitive/highest skill level of all the servers.) 13.5%?? That's TERRIBLE! http://i.imgur.com/mCHTkkp.jpg

Kog'maw deals tons of damage, but yes he is the definition of a "glass cannon." In order to effectively play Kog'maw you need a support with good synergy. You need a support that can prevent the juggernauts from getting on you. Kog'maw + Braum is amazing! Leona is also pretty good with him.

LsatellizerDec 4, 20151 votes

IF you think illaoi is Over powered then your perception of balance is skewed, however you are entitled to your opinion on that. she has the same problem as mordekaiser, and if i'm wrong correct me, you can counter her by just right clicking away and she cant hit you.

BluePolarizerDec 4, 20152 votes

That's not a counter at all. She can't kill you but then she takes free objectives which is way worse.

Let's say there was a champ who dealt 99999999999 damage in a 500 unit radius around her but she has no speedups or gap closers. Is she balanced? NO WAY. Why? Because she can zone you off objectives.

This is why you are low elo and still falling - you don't understand why a champ is OP or not. There's a reason LeBlanc and Zed have extremely low win rates even though they are very good at killing people instantly.

LsatellizerDec 4, 20151 votes

First of all i can tell you're a troll because you're one of those ZOMG LOW ELO GARBAGE ELO IS LIFE.

Gold, plat, bronze not 100% skill, luck is a factor, as all of YOU in the community whine about daily with promotionals ETC. i get gold, get the skin, go back to normals where the game is more fun and you can have more fun trying unique builds

So now onto your "logic" the psuedo champion you made 1 shots people, tentacle lady does not, you can also zone her easily, all she has is her Q, her passive can be taken care of EASY, and you can poke all around.

BluePolarizerDec 4, 20151 votes

I don't whine about elo lol. There's no luck in elo. I've failed to achieve diamond and recognize that it's because I'm good enough for plat 1 but not diamond. However you being low elo means that you simply don't have the game knowledge higher elo players do. Maybe you can learn something from these higher elo players; after all, you can maybe gain 1 or 2 divisions off of luck, but the difference between a gold 5 and a plat 1 is not luck.

I also don't know how you zone her "easily" when her soul grab can chunk you for 40% of your HP from a very respectable range and if you stand in her ult she can literally kill your entire team, while not standing in it means you are zoned from important objectives that she can take fast due to her high damage.

KikirinoDec 4, 20153 votes

Try kiting. Or better positioning. Or stop whining that they are 'op' and actually try to learn how to beat them. Tanks can only kill you if they get to you. Option 1 and 2 help avoid that.

LsatellizerDec 4, 20151 votes

most tanks have gap closers, which defeats the purpose.

which is why i REALLY like illaoi, if you stay and fight her toe to toe, it's almost impossible to beat her healing and insane damage, but if you just kite her out during her ult, she really has no reliable CC and only a very small gap closer to chase. she is slow, but if she gets you, you are dead. she is such a phenominal example of how juggernauts should be.

KikirinoDec 4, 20156 votes

Juggernauts are not tanks. That is why they are called Juggernauts. A lot of damage and durability but no real gapclosers or CC. Tanks are generally great at peeling/disrupting so you need your team to do the same. If you position properly as an adc even a tank with gapclosers will struggle to get to you.

If you walk into range of Malphite's ult then you deserve to be ulted and then die. If you stand behind your frontline and shred him when he ults them then you positioned properly and will be fine. Same goes for basically every tank in the game.

ZLbSwAR23IDec 4, 20151 votes

The problem with Illaoi is that she has immense amounts of CC. She has more CC than anyone.

LadyRenlyDec 4, 20151 votes

kiting...if you get hit by one mundo cleaver you're not kiting anything

ViashinoWizardDec 4, 20152 votes

Also, we have nerfed Last Whisper.

ProfDrDeathDec 4, 20151 votes

We have one. It is called HP/MR/Armor.

Squishies can only get demolished by a tank if they refuse to build any defenses. And in that case, they deserve to be oneshot - it is the trade-off for their power.

LsatellizerDec 4, 20151 votes

like i said, building defensive sets you back a bit because you arent getting damage, meanwhile the tanks that build defensive often scale off of it or get free damage elsewhere. so you're putting yourself at a disadvantage buying damage or tank. lose lose situation

Sir YamazukiDec 4, 20152 votes

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like i said, building defensive sets you back a bit because you arent getting damage, meanwhile the tanks that build defensive often scale off of it or get free damage elsewhere. so you're putting yourself at a disadvantage buying damage or tank. lose lose situation

Yeah, lets completely ignore that QSS builds into another damage item that provides life steal, wow so much sacrificed for an op active and MR which reduces the damage of most tanks that don't build penetration while removing one of their effects. ADCs never have to sacrfiice damage for defense since their defensive items provide offensive stats.

LsatellizerDec 4, 20151 votes

Yeah, Let's completely ignore the multitude of tanks who deal physical damage. Can't build a wooglets lantern anymore bud.