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Was the Darius nerfs a bit too much?

Greengrunt··2 votes·1,191 views
Champion.gg - Darius Top Stats, Builds, Runes, Masteries and Counters

I main darius at a diamond 5 to diamond 3 ranked level and im feeling the nerfs on my favorite champion. Not only was his passive nerfed by 10 AD at earlier levels but the handle on his Q now deals only 35% damage aswell, but on top of those they also nerfed darius's favorite/most used mastery, courage of the colossus, aswell as nerfing a popular and my favorite summoner spell for Darius, ghost. My Darius playstyle was nerfed in 4 different ways, 2 abilites were nerfed, 1 mastery, and 1 summoner spell. I just feel like he was nerfed a bit too hard and I feel the nerfs were targeted for low elo where players don't know how to deal with a darius as much and is why he is commonly banned in lower elo but almost never banned in the higher elo that I play in, because experienced players understand his greatest weaknesses, which is being ganked, being kited/cced/focus fired in teamfights, and to deny him 5 stacks of bleed on any champion. I think his winrate used to be around 52-54% according to certain sources? not 100% sure on this, but after checking right now his winrate is below 50% on some sources, 49.83% on champion.gg, 50.8 on lolking, etc.

11 Comments

Calabok2 votes

nope

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

The nerfs to his Bleeds are kind of like love taps, plus the handle nerf really means nothing if you're good in landing your Q on the blade.

Big Lincoln1 votes

yes, he was nerfed too hard.

But he's still a pretty strong champion on his own merits

PermabannedGaren1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E0nQMiX3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-02-18T02:04:34.039+0000)

yes, he was nerfed too hard.

But he's still a pretty strong champion on his own merits

If he's still "pretty strong", how was he nerfed too hard?

Darius is still an above average top laner. He's performing much better than you'd think he would in a game where Quinn and Jayce are both meta.

Big Lincoln1 votes

because he was hit far harder than necessary, directly and indirectly, but he's still a pretty good champion.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E0nQMiX3,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-02-18T02:10:12.660+0000)

because he was hit far harder than necessary, directly and indirectly, but he's still a pretty good champion.

So you're saying he should be more than a "pretty good" champion? "Pretty good" already implies he is above par in his role, should he be far above par? Who else would you consider "pretty good"?

Big Lincoln1 votes

pretty good would imply average; if I said VERY good you could assume that. and he's pretty average at the moment; he was high tier, maybe tier 1 as far as solo Q goes, before the nerfs. And now I'd say he's in roughly the same spot as the other meta picks, maybe a bit below Maokai Quinn but that's more of the meta shift than anything

Who else would you consider "pretty good"?

most of the top lane juggernauts besides maybe Trundle, Wukong, Fiora, Swain.

not kings of the mountain, but pretty good

PermabannedGaren1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E0nQMiX3,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-18T02:16:58.343+0000)

pretty good would imply average; if I said VERY good you could assume that. and he's pretty average at the moment; he was high tier, maybe tier 1 as far as solo Q goes, before the nerfs. And now I'd say he's in roughly the same spot as the other meta picks, maybe a bit below Maokai Quinn but that's more of the meta shift than anything

most of the top lane juggernauts besides maybe Trundle, Wukong, Fiora, Swain.

not kings of the mountain, but pretty good

He wasn't just tier 1, he was one of the best top laners in the game. He was performing very well despite the fact that most people weren't playing him properly.

Why should he be better than all of those champions though?

hunterspec1 votes

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He wasn't just tier 1, he was one of the best top laners in the game. He was performing very well despite the fact that most people weren't playing him properly.

Why should he be better than all of those champions though?

was he played in lcs this year? I didn't see him the few games I watched.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Queen Incest,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E0nQMiX3,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-02-18T03:01:47.771+0000)

was he played in lcs this year? I didn't see him the few games I watched.

Nope, let me rephrase: he was one of the best top laners in solo queue.

Greengrunt1 votes

hes unseen and seemingly unspoken of in LCS so far this year, not sure why

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