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I hate what Riot did with the trinkets/vision

How Do You Meta··26 votes·1,699 views

I used to always upgrade my trinket to the greater stealth ward totem, and it was amazing to have my lane warded all the time, now I can't buy any individual wards or not upgrade my trinket. Yes I am aware the trinket automatically upgrades itself, but it is awful in comparison to what it used to be. Let us still have the option to upgrade those trinkets for better vision. It is a sick joke when they say "you can place up to 3 wards at a time" now because I can't place more than 2 wards at a time now, one green and one pink, unless I am jungling and get the ward jungle item or I am the support. I thought vision was a team effort, not just rely on the support's 3 wards on a map.

Simple math: 1 charge every 120 seconds for a ward that lasts 120 seconds = 1 ward out at a time, or less if a sweeper picks it up, that is at level 18, at the lower levels the map is going to be even darker.

Note: I find it cool that supports have sight stone combinations and Ruby Sight Stone is a bit cooler now, but now everyone who isn't a support is screwed over if they wanted to ward, I averaged 20 wards a game, now its going to be at best half of that because I can't buy wards or upgrade my trinket to something better than 1 ward every 2 minutes.

20 Comments

Norscout6 votes

#RemoveWardingFromTheGameAndBuffSonasDamage

How Do You Meta5 votes

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#RemoveWardingFromTheGameAndBuffSonasDamage

Topless Sona Ultimate Skin, WHERE!?

Norscout4 votes

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Topless Sona Ultimate Skin, WHERE!?

It's absolutely absurd that it's almost 2016 and theres only ONE Sona ultimate skin, smdh.

Sgathach1 votes

I'm glad someone finally understands how terrible this can be for the team. It doesn't encourage team warding at all. We like to think it does but it doesn't. In reality people who didn't ward before are still never going to ward. Sightstone wards last 150 seconds at least but the only ones that get those are supports.

Even when I wasn't playing support I got extra wards because that's what I do, but now I can't do that because 60% of the people who play this game are idiots who don't know how to use that item?

I don't care that 60% of people don't do something that can turn around the game. Let them not do it for all I care. Just don't take away my ability to ward so that THEY are forced to ward more.

2nd Chance1 votes

Probably one of the dumbest things I've seen since they re-introduced a feral flare like item back into the game and then giving it a insanely broken stack bonus reward, because they didn't learn from last time

If I got 3 dang wards I wanna put on the map, I wanna put 3 wards on the map or no one else freakin' will

How Do You Meta1 votes

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Probably one of the dumbest things I've seen since they re-introduced a feral flare like item back into the game and then giving it a insanely broken stack bonus reward, because they didn't learn from last time

If I got 3 dang wards I wanna put on the map, I wanna put 3 wards on the map or no one else freakin' will

I don't understand why are we punished because the majority of the playerbase doesn't like to ward, isn't there a bunch of reasons why there are people in higher elo such as warding and shot calling and carrying games?

Drugoth1 votes

So if pink wards now cost the same as an old stealth ward, why not remove the limit of 1 active pink per champion on the map? Yay!

How Do You Meta1 votes

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So if pink wards now cost the same as an old stealth ward, why not remove the limit of 1 active pink per champion on the map? Yay!

I just want stealth wards more than a lot of pink wards first please, only having one ward out at a time is awful in lane unless you are the support.

Learnding1 votes

What, they completely destroy wards again? Eh, was expected. I'd be more surprised if Riot actually did something that at least 5% of the community liked.

How Do You Meta1 votes

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What, they completely destroy wards again? Eh, was expected. I'd be more surprised if Riot actually did something that at least 5% of the community liked.

At this rate we are just going to have no vision items other than sight stones, and eventually no vision items.

Timewinder1 votes

i would always be running out of wards. now i can really only place one...

WhatAGeinius1 votes

Try upgrading to the new blue trinket, see if it feels any better to use.

How Do You Meta2 votes

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Try upgrading to the new blue trinket, see if it feels any better to use.

The problem is those wards are visible with one hp, that isn't going to help as much as stealthed wards, but I probably will use this for now though since the current ward is ass, thanks.

WhatAGeinius3 votes

I dunno, having 4000 range, unlimited duration wards with no ward limit on a < 60 second cooldown is pretty good, even if they are easy to kill.

How Do You Meta1 votes

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I dunno, having 4000 range, unlimited duration wards with no ward limit on a < 60 second cooldown is pretty good, even if they are easy to kill.

Well I said its a good substitute for now but it isn't a good replacement to having no more wards either.

Prozzak1 votes

It is pretty strong, first game I had around 6 wards on the map at the same time and that was without using it asap.

shadowsaotome1 votes

The idea behind removing the green ward was that because access to vision was so plentiful, there was no real strategy to it. It was just 'have gold, buy wards, profit', and it kind of took away from having to strategically place them. Not really sure if what we have now is the best solution, but I can at least understand the reasoning. I played with this patch a lot on the PBE, and so long as your team is somewhat mediocre at communicating, you can figure out which areas on the map are most important to keep vision on as the game progresses. I do agree that right out of the gate, yeah it does feel HORRIBLE not having that extra access to vision, but give it some time and see if you can't work through it.

JRobin311 votes

Just pretend that every jungler in the game now has the stealth capability of Eve and tell each player on your team to dedicate their sixth item slot to vision wards.

Auroramancer1 votes

I know how you feel, but honestly, the excessive amount of vision on the map is what made gameplay stale. Nothing happens on the map when boths teams are fully aware of what the other is doing.

I thought vision was a team effort, not just rely on the support's 3 wards on a map.

Nice strawman argument, dude.

PandahHeart1 votes

I hate the vision changes. I used to upgrade my trinket to the greater stealth ward totem as well. Before upgrading it, I also purchased extra wards and bought pinks for mid lane. I liked being able to help ward because some players do not care about warding. However, I do like the new options for sight stone.

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