Zed vs Talon, Why talon need changes

Serf Master·6/3/2016, 3:50:10 PM·2 votes·929 views

Just compare Zed vs Talon

Talon's recent indirect nerfs:

-Swain and anivia buff -Barrier cooldown -Zonya price reduced by 600 gold. -Last Whisper only shred bonus armor

Talon's up-coming indirect nerfs:

-On PBE, half of talon's core items will be more expensive

Lane farming : Zed has passive on auto attacks for farming, low CD on Q for back wave. Talon can cs with auto but its risky since he has no escape. For the back line minions, rake has a long cd and it is his only ranged ability, where it cost a lot of mana.

Lane harass : Zed can harass from range, either with Q or his typical combo, the shadow + E + double shuriken. Zed's harass can also proc thunderlord's decree for extra damage. Talon can only harass with W, his other harass is literally an all in, if you're talking about using cut throat. Does not proc thunderlord's decree.

Ganking for zed / talon : This is pretty even, both champion deals about same damage, both champion has a slow and gap closer.

Escapes : Zed has W for escape pre-6, post 6 good zeds can 1v2 during a gank with his ultimate and jukes. Talon's only escape is his ulti and now 100 second cooldown. He has no escape pre-6, making his lane a good camp for junglers.

Mid game : Zed and talon both can roam effectively. Talon is easy to predict and easy to avoid when well coordinated, so is zed. However Zed has an off the roof out-play potential to dodge incoming skill shots and crowd control. If talon, who has no escape, is stunned, he is pretty much a goner.

Late game : Zed currently got a buff where QSS does not remove death mark. Therefore Zed possess same or higher degree of threat toward enemy AD carry. He can effectively zone the ad carry just by making his presence. Talon too, however talon is much more predictable and everyone knows his cut throat range.

Zed has a % health damage on his passive. Talon has barely a passive.

Time to buff talon riot

6 Comments

Very Hard Engage6/3/2016, 3:53:43 PM1 votes

the difference being zed is supposed to shine in lane, where talon is supposed to shine with 2-3 items and drop a lone target. (in the mid game)

Slopestyle6/3/2016, 3:55:09 PM1 votes

Talon's burst damage is more reliable, that's about all he has over Zed.

stealthfox946/3/2016, 3:59:36 PM1 votes

Talon is more reliable overall and has a better ult for teamfights.

Mecha MaIphite6/3/2016, 5:29:27 PM1 votes

I'd pick Talon over Zed any day. Faster burst, reliable stealth kills, good waveclear after first item, great AoE, less salt from scrubs who got dunked on.