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Champions I Would Remove/Rework

TheUnrepentant·3/6/2020, 4:07:38 AM·1 votes·3,292 views

So this is basically just going to be a rant. If you want to reply and state a tactic for beating a certain champion that'd be cool, but I don't really expect the boards to do anything positive. I'm not really interested in finding a counter pick, more in tactics because you don't always get to pick after your laner and sometimes the annoying champion isn't your laner (or there is more than one in the game).

Let me preface this with saying that I have banned Yasuo for a year straight now. No regrets in that column. The only exception to this is if someone hovers him before I get to ban him. I'm not that big of a dick.

Basically I'm going to list alphabetically which champions would be covered in the description covered by the title with a brief description of why (non-exhaustive and in some cases not very specific). Not going to even attempt to state what could be changed to make their kits healthy and this is all my opinion. Some of these are much worse than others, some just barely made the list.

Akali: Gets a gunblade and from that point forward your attempts to live are over.

Dr. Mundo: Statcheck of healing

Draven: You're just going to spend laning phase under turret now. Fun and interactive champions.

Evelynn: So glad you learned how to ward properly, now you can either spend all your time on risky warding missions into her jungle or just know she'll be ganking without warning all the time. Pretty fair champion if you have a team. IF.

Fiddlesticks: Point and click cc for all my friends. (am aware that he's slated for rework)

Fizz: Feels like laning phase and the game are just up to him, no matter what you do.

Heimerdinger: Most uninteractive champion.

Irelia: If she's good or not will dictate your entire laning phase. I enjoy playing her but I suck at it.

Katarina: See Akali, this time with resets (but no invisibility).

LeBlanc: Haha. Blinked in, rooted you despite your flash, killed you, and got out before your team could do anything.

Master Yi: What you didn't take hard cc because he got last pick?

Pyke: Invis, hook, free regen, execute. Better than he used to be to play against.

Quiyana: Honestly just feels like her ult does too much, with the knockback, the conditional stun, and the damage that will follow an entire wall.

Renekton: You picked a melee? Lol. Stun, dump combo, and get out for free.

Riven: All of the dashes, stuns, knock ups. Can't catch her, can't run. Much damage. Wow.

Shaco: Invis, fear boxes, clone with boxes.

Shyvana: Builds pure AP, tanks most damage in game. Does most damage in game.

Singed: Proxy Singed.

Tahm Kench: Too much denial of agency.

Teemo: Not the worst anymore, but still Teemo.

Tryndamere: Kit designed by a 12 year old, you can't run away, you can't chase, free crit, free sustain, and if you try to kill him post level 6 the 12 year old throws a tantrum and declares that he can't be killed. Which isn't even a long CD.

Twitch: "I was hiding! Hehehahaa"

Vayne: You picked a tank? Cute, you don't get to have any fun this game, and also if your adc can't cc they're probably screwed by her ult.

Yasuo: Windwall, the 10 death Yasuo powerspike, double crit chance, free shield, and my general frustration with champions that don't have a resource limit (no mana, no energy).

Zed: Almost didn't make this list, but the ability of Zeds to farm easily under turret (if needed) to 6, ult to faceroll keyboard to kill, if he didn't kill you don't worry he's going to be fine as he jumps back to a shadow (even on a turret dive), and oh by the way that ult will be back up soon and he'll have more lethality next time.

Zoe: Free summoner spells/item actives, stupid long range, stupid high damage, and a free lichbane in her kit.

Yes that is 26 champions. Those are to me the most toxic kits in the game. Anything constructive on dealing with any of them would be apprieciated.

/rant

12 Comments

Emperør Rhaast3/7/2020, 12:32:28 AM2 votes

IIf theres one thing I can't stand about zed it's the unneeded shit he gets. A melee assassin having harass longer range than poke mages? Sure, fine, whatever. \The thing is he has to put in 0 effort to last hit under tower like other assassins, so shoving him in the early levels isn't even going to make him lose farm. nice.

Zerenza3/7/2020, 12:39:01 AM2 votes

Evelynn One Trick

  1. Her pre-6 is the weakest pre-6 of any jungler in the game, get an early ward on her buff(Safest time to is 40-50 seconds into the game) and invade her with your jungler.
  2. Don't Control Ward your River Bushes, evelynn's like to avoid your control wards on purpose so you feel like she can't gank you when she can just walk into your lane from like 8 different places that your one River Bush Ward can't see. If you have Lane Dominance and the enemy laner can't out push you, place a control ward just outside of your Tower's reveal range, this annoy's the ever living shit out of me. Also remember to buy more than one control ward a game.
  3. Evelynn scales harder than most assassins in the game but early on she can't one shot you without landing a Charm, if you see her W on you just run away if she lands her charm your 100% dead no matter how much MR you have. Merc Treads are a great option against evelynn too, evelynn's usually max their charm so the duration get's up to 2 seconds and remember, if you get charmed long enough you die.
  4. Late game try to stay grouped with at least one other person if your squishy or try to protect your squishy, keep your finger on your CC button and be prepared. It's like playing a horror game, evelynn is probably just waiting for the right time to flash on your ADC or Mage.

That's the best i can do on tips against her, primarily you just want to try not to feed her too much early on, invade her often to put her super far behind and try to control ward up places that she can't get to easily. Late game, if she reaches it, that's when she's the most scary not even a 4k HP ornn can get out of a full Evelynn combo without taking at least 60% of their HP.

Hotarµ3/6/2020, 4:10:29 AM1 votes

So this is basically just going to be a rant

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Everyday Legends3/6/2020, 10:35:12 AM1 votes

In regards to Zoe's Spell Shards:

Spell Shards are not free. Zoe earns each and every Spell Shard she collects.

She can collect Spell Shards one of two ways: first, by waiting the arrival for a minion with a balloon (less than one per wave), successful delivering the last hit on said minion, then going over to collect the Shard; or second, by one dropping from someone on the enemy team, and then going over to collect the Shard. The Spell Shard is right there on the ground for everyone to see. Going over to it sets Zoe up for the enemy team's crowd-control, area-denial, skill-shots, point-and-click abilities, and even their basic attacks. It's basically a beacon that says "Zoe will try to collect this. Punish her for it!"

Please take note of that second way of collecting Shards. Enemies drop them by casting Summoner Spells or triggering item-actives. That means that by simply not using those while Zoe is around, the enemy team can deny Zoe a lot of her potential power. I doubt there is another Champion in the game whose power is so closely linked to the actions of the enemy team. And here's something to consider: Summoner Spells and item-actives are just about the only actions that are truly only in the player's control. There are abilities that force you to move, force you to attack, force you to keep still, but no one can force you to use those. If Zoe collected a Spell Shard from you, it means not only did you trigger your ability while she was near enough to get it, you also did it in a place that was safe for her to collect it, and no one on your team stopped her from collecting it.

So what does Zoe get for her efforts? One cast of Spell Thief. Think about that for a moment. Bard collects randomly spawning Chimes (that he doesn't need make spawn, nor can they be withheld by the enemy), and when he does, he gains experience and empowers his Meeps. Collecting his randomly spawning collectible makes him scale. And don't get me started on Thresh. Randomly spawning souls grant him Ability Power, Armor, Shield strength, and damage on his Flay ability. This is on top of fact that these will spawn simply from things dying near Thresh (while Zoe needs to last-hit her minions), cannot be seen by enemies unless they have vision of Thresh, and most amusing of all, they can be collected by his Lantern. Zoe's collectible, which must be earned by her directly and can be withheld by enemies, grants her one cast of an ability, while Champions who have an easier time gathering their collectibles get to scale.

And by the way, they get to do this... without sacrificing an ability slot! Spell Thief already has a greater price than most Champions can imagine: having a "W" ability. Let's consider Irelia, or Tahm Kench, or Yasuo: all Champions with very powerful "W" abilities. Imagine if suddenly these Champions were told that, in order to cast your "W", you will first have to earn the right to cast it by collecting a drop, then you have to use it within the next minute or it'll go to waste, you're not allowed to stack multiple of them, which means you'll have to go through this each and every time you want to use this ability, and in the meantime, this slot is effectively empty. They would go into shock. But that's Zoe's reality.

Spell Shards are not free. They are a lot of work.

Ragnaveil3/6/2020, 4:40:18 PM1 votes

Rework Aatrox. All I ask at this point since Riot feels content leaving him in such a shagged state.

LanceTheJungler3/7/2020, 2:24:27 PM1 votes

My main problem with Renekton is so much of his shit is gated for no reason except because his early game is too good. IMO lower his early damage and base AD. Decrease his cooldowns mid to late ( kinda compensation for Spear of Shojin removal kinda just to make him more fun ), remove his Q heal cap. With these changes he would be so much more fun to play, right now you are forced to get value out of your early and its a never ending game of one mistake ( that not even you have to make ) and you lose. And he honestly plays like a less fun Aatrox because lategame you are just a flash W bot.