Random Champions in ARAM

Bromagnon Man··7 votes·756 views

Why is it that I can play 10 ARAM games and get the same champion or see the same champion 3 times in that time span. Can we make ARAM random enough that I get to play all of the champions I own before playing the same one twice? Or seeing the same champions over and over?

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Naching2 votes

Im with you

Time ago i send a MP to Riot because always the same champs and they said that Aram is 100% random...

I have my doubts

I love Aram for me the most fun mode but i was tired of always fiddle, annie, nunu, soraka, udyr, garen ...i have lots of champs and that is fustrating...

Since some time back it looks a bit well for me ...lets pray xD

FantasySniper2 votes

I don't think it's random either. I roll Mundo ten times more often than Braum.

SanKakU1 votes

That's because you don't always get your champion rolled first and you can't roll a champ that one of your allies or opponents already rolled. So you're on average going to get the more popular champs far less often than the unpopular ones.

FantasySniper1 votes

That still doesn't explain the prevalence. ARAM-only accounts wouldn't be caught dead with either in their pool, and Braum has always been more meta than Mundo, so why is Mundo rolled so much more often then Braum?

SanKakU1 votes

Mundo's really good on ARAM though. And Braum is totally fine too! High quality tanks can be tricky to come by for ARAMs and usually you need tanks to win. Honestly, I just wish everyone could have a random champion pool page so that people can play the types of champs they want to play or the quality of champs they want to play or whatever. Then there'd be no need for ARAM only accounts.

FantasySniper1 votes

Mundo's below-average, and Braum is not much better. By comparison, Galio and Sion do much better as tanks.

SanKakU1 votes

Sion is indeed very good, but it's ridiculous to claim he's better than Mundo. They do very different things, they're both very unique tanks. Not a fan of Galio, but hey, if you don't like a champ, the random champion pool page would let you take them out instead of feeling bad about reworks/nerfs.

FantasySniper1 votes

I'm talking about ARAM performance, here. Sion is objectively better than Mundo with a higher winrate and equivalent playrate.

I roll both, and enjoy playing both, but I always have a much better chance of winning with Sion.

SanKakU1 votes

Well, according to that tier list, he's only one tier below Sion, not too bad IMO. I find this list confusing for a number of reasons. For one, I've noticed Kayle winning more than Sona. I suspect that this list isn't reliable because there's no way to filter the ARAM games by region using this site. On some other servers, surely Sona performs much better, but here on NA, although she can be quite strong, tends to lose more often than not due to greedy play styles of her teammates.

But of course my own play style might be heavily warping the champion's win rates in my own games. I tend to punish Sona players on the other team rather reliably that have greedy teammates while my play style tends to suffer against champs like Kayle(her passive is nice against high resistances).

Nami Want Salami1 votes

I got fucking rengar 3 games in a row so I just dodged the third game and closed league

Pôro1 votes

Beat me to it, ARAM isn't 100% random. I swear i got a Kayle in my team 4 times in a row and the last one someone left champ select. and out of my last 15 ARAM games, there was a Jinx in 5 of them, 5/15 ?? that's 1/3 of my games with the same hero.

TheDonar1 votes

I mean, it is possible for randomized selection to produce a lot of repeats.

I do, however, believe there is more to the algorithm than they let on. I not only get tons of repeats, but I always get at least 4 of the 'Free for the week' champions in the lobby. It is like clockwork and they 'magically' never return the following week.

I 'get' that they need to sell champs/skins to keep the game going, but don't say it is 100% random when it would seem there is at least a LITTLE something more going on under the hood.

I wish they did something with re-rolls as well that wouldn't let you re-roll the original champ you rolled on. I've RR'd then RR'd again and gotten the original champ I RR'd on.

I would also like it to not allow a champ you have played in the last 5 games or 7 days (in the event you haven't played 5 games in the last week). I can't tell you how many times I've RR'd and its like oh...Rengar...again....

1374341 votes

I'm like 90% sure the system is skewed to favor the free week and more popular champs (by looking at how many people in the team own the champ), probably to maximize the number of trades possible. Granted based on statistics the more popular champions will be seen more often because more people own them, so hard to tell if that is truly the case. But I definitely feel like the system puts more weight into the free champs.

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