League auto balance

CleanBandito·Feb 4, 2019·4 votes·4,181 views

I remember reading in some forums about win rates and how league tries to balance out everyone in a team so that the combined winrate in a game for everyone is 50% or some stupid stuff like that? Is that true? Because I just got into my placements for the ranked season and won like 4 games in a row with great teams, like god everyone was on point. Then 4 losses later with teammates that felt like the game were unwinnable? Is this true, like after you get to a high winrate the game automatically matches you with worse people with bad winrates? I've never done so bad in placements before and my highest rank was Gn4 which isn't anything amazing but good for me. Not even going to lie here, with that last loss I wanted to ram my fist through my monitor and almost did (something I've never done). Just wanted to know or it's just bad rng. (Also, sorry if this is in the wrong thread)

13 Comments

JamareeFeb 4, 20192 votes

Kind of, the games tend to try and match up MMR while also trying to make it more likely to win if you are on a losing streak by making your opponents lower rank.

CleanBanditoFeb 4, 20191 votes

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Kind of, the games tend to try and match up MMR while also trying to make it more likely to win if you are on a losing streak by making your opponents lower rank.

Oh, thank you. I was just curious.

Daddy AntsFeb 4, 20191 votes

I have a 78% win rate on my other account and get paired with people who have like 40-45% win rates.

I don't think your win rate is part of the equation.

It's MMR.

GigglesOFeb 4, 20191 votes

League tries to make every game have a 50% chance of winning. Yes this does mean riot will place an Iron 4 against a challenger if it sees fit.

It does basically try and force a 50% win rate. You have to be exceptionally bad or good to demote/climb.

leagueofturdsFeb 4, 20191 votes

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Yes this does mean riot will place an Iron 4 against a challenger if it sees fit.

This could not be farther from the truth. Show me one game in ranked this actually happened. Stop this hyperbole nonsense boards are known for.

GigglesOFeb 4, 20191 votes

There was a guy that I saw a post about. He was diamond 1 MMR but intentionally dodged every promo game to stay bronze 5. Riot places you by MMR not by Division/LP.

I did not lie. Riot will if need be place an Iron4 against a challenger of the MMRs line up and riot thinks both teams have a 50% chance of winning.

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While we know some matches may feel like stomps, we do try to make sure all teams have a 50 +/-1% chance of victory using all the information we have

They match players solely off of MMR and not Lp/Divisions. Your MMR moves much faster than your LP rank. So if you are winning a lot it will give you progressively more difficult opponents.

As I previously stated you have to be exceptionally good/bad to move ranks.

Trust me you can play against gold players and maintain Diamond as long as you have a 50% win rate.

leagueofturdsFeb 4, 20191 votes

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There was a guy that I saw a post about. He was diamond 1 MMR but intentionally dodged every promo game to stay bronze 5. Riot places you by MMR not by Division/LP.

I did not lie. Riot will if need be place an Iron4 against a challenger of the MMRs line up and riot thinks both teams have a 50% chance of winning.

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They match players solely off of MMR and not Lp/Divisions. Your MMR moves much faster than your LP rank. So if you are winning a lot it will give you progressively more difficult opponents.

As I previously stated you have to be exceptionally good/bad to move ranks.

Trust me you can play against gold players and maintain Diamond as long as you have a 50% win rate.

Gold vs Diamond is not the same as Iron vs. Challenger. No one with challenger MMR and in the healthy state of mind would intentionally try to stay below challenger to get matched with Irons. I am repeating this again: Show me a single game, where a challenger MMR was matched with Iron MMR. I am not talking about ranks, I am talking abour MMRs as well.

GigglesOFeb 4, 20191 votes

Just because I exaggerate doesn’t mean it isn’t conditionally true.

leagueofturdsFeb 4, 20191 votes

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... conditionally true.

What does that mean? Truth is not conditional on anything. What you mean is "speculation". You are speculating that such thing can happen. It hasn't happened, that's what truth is. Yes, you exaggerate, that's why it is a hyperbole statement when you say: "MMR system can match an Iron with a Challenger."

GigglesOFeb 4, 20191 votes

Because it can. That isn't an exaggeration. It can match an iron tier with a challenger. If both would have challenger MMR.

Also I misread something you stated.

No one with challenger MMR and in the healthy state of mind would intentionally try to stay below challenger to get matched with Irons

The iron would actually be placed in the challenger game. Not the other way around. If you dodge enough games LP wise you can get demoted and stay at the bottom of iron tier while still gaining MMR.

leagueofturdsFeb 4, 20191 votes

How in the hell would an iron tier player have challenger MMR??? Are you hearing yourself? This is getting ridiculous now. You can believe in whatever you want. An iron will never be in the same game with a challenger, unless the challenger intentionally deranks/stays below their elo for absolutely no sane reason. Period.

GigglesOFeb 4, 20191 votes

I already stated.