A massive heap of bullshit.
Cost them the game entirely.
Where at in the video is it?
Where at in the video is it?
just watch Sejuani and you will see it
Even though I don't like Fnatic, I still agree.
That's pretty much a bullshit bug that's insanely punishing.
Bugs so big they have to nerf Kha'zix now LOL
I see sejuani has been taking lessons from zed
More like 
You can see how the commentator's react. If they say "woah bug!" Riot would have fired them. So they kept their mouths shut.
The video cuts off prior to the point when the commentators talk about how that looked like a bug, they just have to carry on commentating on the fight before coming back to the glitch.
The video cuts off prior to the point when the commentators talk about how that looked like a bug, they just have to carry on commentating on the fight before coming back to the glitch.
It was actually a bug, Febiven said it in an interview. http://fragbite.se/fragtv/video/2325/febiven-we-should-have-paused-after-the-bug-happened
They talk about the bug at 1:20.
You can see how the commentator's react. If they say "woah bug!" Riot would have fired them. So they kept their mouths shut.
I think I heard them say "WOAH SHE FLASHED BACK OVER!" Yeah, thats was happened.
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I think I heard them say "WOAH SHE FLASHED BACK OVER!" Yeah, thats was happened.
If you recheck the video, Sejuani's flash never went on cooldown, which seriously indicated that it was a bug.
Yeah. Sej flashed after she took a bunch of damage from the bug, in order to escape.
In the actual stream they commentator's did say it looked like a bug or something while SKT took the baron
When I watch it in slow motion, it looks like the Nunu Snowball hit the Sej and popped Banshees at the same instant she started the dash. Banshees popped and sent her back to the original spot?
It's actaully a visual bug, where it looks like you made it over the wall, but in reality you just hit it face first. Still dumb because if it actully showed you hitting a wall I think reingover would have just flashed over it, and not think he was on the other side
it wasnt a visual bug, she landed it
Then Fnatic should have paused the game and asked for a remake. No pause, no ask, no remake. Not much to debate here. Result stands. Go home.
I don't think it would have mattered. Pretty sure Skt still would have won.
At the time of that i don't believe fnatic had lost a single team fight and was forcing the fights. After that skt got baron and fnatic just collapsed they tried to fight out the siege but just couldn't with a fed lucian and team of baron buffs in my mind that solely cost them the game. Sure fnatic could have messed up later on but with the team comp they had and the way they were playing i doubt it.
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At the time of that i don't believe fnatic had lost a single team fight and was forcing the fights. After that skt got baron and fnatic just collapsed they tried to fight out the siege but just couldn't with a fed lucian and team of baron buffs in my mind that solely cost them the game. Sure fnatic could have messed up later on but with the team comp they had and the way they were playing i doubt it.
This.
That catch got them baron.
We all know that it won't change. I don't know if you're salty about TSM going home leaving an awful impression unlike Fnatic or about Fnatic standing against a Korean team.
Either way, the bug is clear and if you saw the game, you saw how it changed the course of the game in SKT's favor. Showing the truth is a good enough reason to shout out these things, it doesn't have to necessarily try to change the outcome of the situation.
looks like sejauni is practing her leblanc.
I don't know that it cost them the game necessarily, but... yeah, that's pretty bad.
I find it funny how it happened to Bang as well and nobody says anything. If Bang hadn't glitched out of the baron pit FNC wouldn't get to the first baron in time.
Fnatic lost to SKT because technically Sej flashed in a wall, not because of a bug if you watch it closely at 0.08 you see Sej didn't get entirely beyond the wall, landing in one of those existent small areas that aren't walkable areas even though it visually seems that is walkable terrain and so got bumped back These area have always existed, and even if the new Summoner's Rift is being visually more fitting with the walkable terrain, they still exist (just go back and search for Riot explanation of the updated Summoner Rift when they show the difference between old and new SR and see that there are still areas which do not fit perfectly)
This can be confounding at times, though, so Riot should either try to do small extra works on the Rift on some of the visual bugs that could be the most confunding like the areas around those thick walls in the mid lane that are seen in the video, or changing Flash interaction with the thicker walls making it interact a bit more like Bard's Magical Journey, making Flash being successful even if players fail by just a little (if x% - 95+% - of the champ model land in walkable terrain then Flash is successful)
P.S: Probably this problem affect more the champs with the biggest model sizes like Seju that could have even a minimal portion of the model that does not land on walkable terrain while the rest of it does
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Fnatic lost to SKT because technically Sej flashed in a wall, not because of a bug if you watch it closely at 0.08 you see Sej didn't get entirely beyond the wall, landing in one of those existent small areas that aren't walkable areas even though it visually seems that is walkable terrain and so got bumped back These area have always existed, and even if the new Summoner's Rift is being visually more fitting with the walkable terrain, they still exist (just go back and search for Riot explanation of the updated Summoner Rift when they show the difference between old and new SR and see that there are still areas which do not fit perfectly)
This can be confounding at times, though, so Riot should either try to do small extra works on the Rift on some of the visual bugs that could be the most confunding like the areas around those thick walls in the mid lane that are seen in the video, or changing Flash interaction with the thicker walls making it interact a bit more like Bard's Magical Journey, making Flash being successful even if players fail by just a little (if x% - 95+% - of the champ model land in walkable terrain then Flash is successful)
P.S: Probably this problem affect more the champs with the biggest model sizes like Seju that could have even a minimal portion of the model that does not land on walkable terrain while the rest of it does
Sejuani never used flash and febiven said it was a bug in an interview...
Yeah, Sej used her Q dash so I should have typed dash instead of flash...but dashes and flashes work in the same way so it is basically the same issue, and it is not technically a functional bug but rather a visual bug
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Yeah, Sej used her Q dash so I should have typed dash instead of flash...but dashes and flashes work in the same way so it is basically the same issue, and it is not technically a functional bug but rather a visual bug
its not a visual bug lol... just watch the link to an interview with febiven that i posted on the 2nd page
its not a visual bug lol... just watch the link to an interview with febiven that i posted on the 2nd page
It is a visual bug, look where Sej landed in the video, she just landed with a portion of the model in not walkable terrain
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It is a visual bug, look where Sej landed in the video, she just landed with a portion of the model in not walkable terrain
You were not in the game, you dont know what happened. Febiven said it WAS A BUG and they lost baron because of it.
You were not in the game, you dont know what happened. Febiven said it WAS A BUG and they lost baron because of it.
LOL Have you even seen the video you posted? Look at where Sej landed! Sej landed in both the videos in the middle of the wall with a part of the model. That Seju Q range or interaction is not enough with the actual Seju model or animation to go through that wall. It has to be clarified because it is visual confounding, I said it, but this is not a functional bug
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LOL Have you even seen the video you posted? Look at where Sej landed! Sej landed in both the videos in the middle of the wall with a part of the model. That Seju Q range or interaction is not enough with the actual Seju model or animation to go through that wall. It has to be clarified because it is visual confounding, I said it, but this is not a functional bug
NO. Sejuani went through the wall but she went back because Nunu popped her banshees. This bug also happens when you jump over a wall into bard's W...
NO. Sejuani went through the wall but she went back because Nunu popped her banshees. This bug also happens when you jump over a wall into bard's W...
NO Look at the SKt vs FNC video again at 0.07-0.08 . Seju doesn't go with the model and animation through that wall, she landed with part of the model INTO the wall.
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NO Look at the SKt vs FNC video again at 0.07-0.08 . Seju doesn't go with the model and animation through that wall, she landed with part of the model INTO the wall.
Ok this is just disgusting. You know I'm right but you won't admit it just because I'm a girl. You also have "male" in your name, sexist pig.
Ok this is just disgusting. You know I'm right but you won't admit it just because I'm a girl. You also have "male" in your name, sexist pig.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH That's the worse excuse I have ever read. You didn't even answer to the point but just started with this pathetic thing And explain, how would I know you were a girl by your nickname if you are really a girl? really? And my native language is not english (as you could notice as "è" does not have a meaning in english), "Male" just means bad in my language
Returning back to the point, look at SKt vs FNC video and at your video and try to say that Sej has passed the wall with her enitre model...she just landed in the wall on the dash with part of her model
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH That's the worse excuse I have ever read. You didn't even answer to the point but just started with this pathetic thing And explain, how would I know you were a girl by your nickname if you are really a girl? really? And my native language is not english (as you could notice as "è" does not have a meaning in english), "Male" just means bad in my language
Returning back to the point, look at SKt vs FNC video and at your video and try to say that Sej has passed the wall with her enitre model...she just landed in the wall on the dash with part of her model
LOL you're WRONG. im not going to respond to you anymore. bye you disgusting sexist pig.
LOL you're WRONG. im not going to respond to you anymore. bye you disgusting sexist pig.
Show in the videos the precise second where Sej has passed the wall and the non walkable terrain just next to that wall with her entire model or shut up
If Sejuani wasn't able to pass through the wall with the dash, she would've stopped on the wall. Not fucking fly over it then go back like LeBlanc.
That's how dashes in this game works. If you can't go over the wall, you slam into it. If you can go over it, you go over it and stay on the other side.
There is nothing to discuss here.
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Finally! Someone finally gets it!
Have another upvote, bro.
The way I see it, bugs are like inclement weather in real sports. If a football player slips on wet grass, and it causes him to fumble, that's fair play because it could of happened to anyone, lucky just wasn't on his side. Bugs aren't in any way fans of either time, they aren't judging players sand saying who gets to win and who gets to lose, someone just slipped into the pit first out of all the players.
It's fucked up but shit happens.
That's a rather terrible analogy because you can practice playing on wet grass so that you don't slip on it. What can you do to practice getting around a bug that has no sure-fire detection rate? If the grass is wet, you know its wet and adjust your footwork accordingly. If a wall in LoL pushes you back after dashing through it, what actions can you take to prevent the likelihood of this happening? Other than, you know, avoiding that wall/dash/champion.
Fair point but my point is the same regardless of the circumstances of the sport. Each one has their one in a millions and we saw one today. If weather isn't relatable think of it like a player getting injured. Whatever allows you to better understand it but I'm sure you know what I'm trying to say so i'm sure you're clear.
I don't think it is exactly a terrible analogy as I said before, but a slightly incorrect one. I'd think of a glitch as rather, let's say... a hole in the field that was loosely filled with dirt and gave way when a player stepped on it, causing them to stumble.
comparing league bugs to football weather would really be like a football player 1 time out of 10,000 hitting a 5 foot deep pot hole when someone else was just their but didn't fall in
The bug happens to Bang at about 31:50 into the game. He dashes over the wall at baron and then walks back through the wall.
If you watch the sej's flash cd, it doesn't go off when sej appears back where she was.
Its funny though, as no one said anything when bang did the exact same thing earlier trying to e over the baron wall and got flung back. which caused him the walk all the way around to get to baron that had started w/o him