Usually I could slip between some minions but now my champ goes all the way around the whole wave. I don't like this at all. I've read a lot of bad things about Draven and it being 10x harder to catch his axes because of this.
A few days ago (before the latest patch) I was in a TT game with a few friends. In a single game three different people got trapped in minion waves and were unable to move without killing the minions. It happened to me as Cho'Gath, my teammate as Warwick, and the enemy Tahm. I've seen it happen at various other times, but to see it three times in a single 30-ish minute game is a sign that things are really bad.
When it happened to me, I got encircled in a clump of my own minions fighting the enemy team's minions. I couldn't get to my ally in time to save them from an ambush, and I just durdled around trying to get myself unstuck as my ally died. The enemy Tahm tried to run past a wave of his own minions as my teammates chased him. He would have made it, but the minions closed around him, essentially creating what looked like a tiny J4 ult just around him. I didn't see exactly what happened to Ww since I was still in the teamfight he was trying to get out of, but I was in a Skype call with the guy. I'm paraphrasing here, but it boiled down to: "Wait, what? Why can't I- Ohfortheloveof- Minions, no! LET ME OUT! MINIONS! YOU'RE WORSE THAN THE YELLOW ABOMINATIONS THAT TOOK OVER FACEBOOK! RELEASE M-" An ally has been slain "^^^^ that."
Definitely feels like the creep/minion hitboxes are a lot larger now, I've had skillshots aimed to "thread the needle" between minions that worked fine last patch that are totally worthless now.
I've had it happen with Jinx's zap 3 times today already, and its not like zap has a very wide hitbox to begin with.
Oh and trying to last hit with the new early game damage from the changed masteries and items on top of the creep block is kinda annoying.
it's currently even more of a nightmare to last hit as a melee champ that didn't get it's range increased and still sits at 125 AA range
considering it feels like minions bodyblock you from 150 range :P
I don't mind enemy creep blocking you but I wish your OWN MINIONS wouldn't. It pisses me off every time I want to get away but I can't because I have to go around MY OWN MINIONS! This has got to change. you should be able to walk right through them or maybe you push em out of your way as you do that. To me that would make sense. minions see you they make way.
yesss, i noticed this but thought it was just me. I was naut and just kept saying "wow naut so fat can't get through anything."
I hope a Rioter shows up to explain this. I don't think the patch notes said anything about groups of minions being harder to run through. There is definitely something going on and I don't know if it's intentional or if it's a bug of some kind.
The minion revolution has begun.
Join the new overlords or get blocked to death.
Forget Draven. The real issue is melee champs can't walk up to a minion line and aa the person on the other side. You path allll the way around the side end of the minions or if you're lucky you slip through them and get stuck in place between them and can't move at all.
It definitely has Also I am more prone to getting stuck on turret debris, it's only for like a second but when you are being chased/chasing that can mean all the difference
Creep block is one of those things that made sense early on, and now it's just one of those things that they have no idea how to fix, so they come up with things like PD to remove the problem altogether. Eventually if they never fix it, they'll make it some sort of passive on everyone at some point. Which probably won't happen until there's a LCS match with huge championship implications and it's a glaring problem.
I played a game yesterday and as usual with the current games it was a stomp and I was super fed as brand 13/0 we were taking their nexus and the inhib responded so I was bullying them on the pad while my teammates took the inhib so we could finish and three of my minions made a little cup around me and slowly pushed me onto the laser and I died. Needless to say me and my friends were crying laughing as I got bullied by our own minions. While I hate it, it's gotten to the point of ridiculously hilarious it's so bad.
Creep blocking is even worse now because pathing is dumb. My champ keeps trying to run through the minion wave and getting stuck on them.
You have to roll aaaallll the way around the minions now when you gank as Rammus.
They're just bigger creeps this year. So creepy.
See what I did there? ^u^
Regardless, I agree. I can't even last hit as 
anymore and I hope that the auto range increase will help me with that.
I was essentially drifting sideways earlier as Sejuani in one of my games. Literally. Sideways.
Creep block has become very much worse. It's like Riot is actually trying to slowly enforce it as a proper game mechanic. Feels like shit.
I thought it was just my head playing tricks on me but yeah, been blocked and trap a lot more often.
I had times where I click on an enemy in the middle of his minions, and my champs going AROUND the minions to behind before hitting them.
I sometimes happen to make numerous circles around a minion wave... after issuing one move command.
This whole "creep block" needs to go. Badly.
Played a Draven game today, personally I had no real issue catching axes, hit 83 CS at 10. But HOOOLY shit it was a challenge due to creep block. I've noticed it had gotten worse.
I had a regular ward block me once cause it was visible...only happened to me this patch.
Yeah, minions are lining up like a solid wall now. Pretty annoying. And pathing gets confused and makes you walk back and forth when you try to go around.
Maybe they are wanting Phantom Dancer to be a little more special now.
I agree and actually noticed it recently. I thought maybe it was just me, but I felt like I had been having such a hard time navigating around the minions recently. Good to know I'm not the only one.
I walked into the jungle today from bot lane and a lane minion stayed aggroed on me while i was walking near a wall corner. It body blocked me for all of 1 sec but i clicked a different path and got around it fully but i got magically perma slowed as if i was stuck in between a cluster a minions walking. But the minion was NO WHERE NEAR ME AT ALL ANYMORE. It wasn't next to me and it had lost aggro but i was stuck walking ultra slow until i clicked around in circles a bit to lose the damn ghost minion hitbox that was stuck on me.
As a draven player, I can confirm this... meanwhile the raging panth on my team is saying I blow dogs for quarters and should never play draven again.
it has gotten worse. they said a long time ago they would slowly make minion collision more impactful. They just decided not to stop doing that for over 2 seasons and wont until it is impossible to move around a minion alltogether... seriously Riot, you removed a ton of impact ignoring effects aside from the few passives that incorporate it. Is it not about time to let melee champions be able to actually lane effectively without mazing through minions all the time...
I was playing Malzahar a bit after the patch and I got pinned to the wall by my own voidlings. I wasn't able to move at all until one of them expired.
I've had issues with their hitboxes, where so many times I accidentally give them
's shield while trying to defend a teammate. It's hilariously sad.
minion boxes got bigger
MAYBE IF YOU PEOPLE DIDNT ABUSE THE MINIONS, THIS WOULDNT BE HAPPENING
You people keep stealing their CS and then use them to tank turrets, we brought this on ourselves.
Viva La Revolution.
Season 6: now with 200% more creep block
Couldn't reach a nexus turret to auto-attack it yesterday because my minions where lined-up in such a way that I couldn't reach it without making a huge detour.
I was even blocked by no creeps recently when I tele'd to the turret. I was unable to move to the minions at all to farm them till they were all gone. I was about to hit b thinking it wouldn't end till the last minion died and I could move again. They were no where near me.
Good. Now champions passives and skills that can move through units actually means something.
