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Hextech Chests Shouldn't Give Champion Shards

BeardedLuchador·6/28/2018, 8:39:56 PM·125 votes·22,801 views

I understand that the company has to make money, but it's such a negative experience to have every champion, over 30k BE, wait for an indiscriminate amount of time for key fragments, and earn a box----to only unlock a single champion shard. It's one of the most infuriating things about hextech crafting. This frustration is exacerbated due to how easy it is to get leveling boxes, and how they typically contain more than one champion shard.

I'm at a point where I would almost rather the champion shards get automatically disenchanted rather than having to do the extra step of recycling trash. There's only about 2 characters I seriously want full mastery on (which I've already achieved), the rest is just garbage to be disenchanted into BE.

 

It was one thing when the mastery emote was all that there was to flash, but now that we've got so many different emotes (even tho I still mostly use thumbs-up) there's not much incentive to get that banner; it just gets you flamed when you have a bad game.

 

The boxes (and by extension keys) that we get are supposed to be a reward for playing extremely well in a game/on a character, but as they stand right now it feels more like I'm punished for even wasting my keys on a non-masterwork box.

And before we start getting into "it's a free game, you just want free loot" I've spent over $1500 on my account in all the years I've been playing. I think I've earned the right to be a little grumpy when the "freebies" that I have to invest my time into the game to earn end up being meaningless. At least before, I could stockpile 3x shards in order to reroll into the newest champion. Now, I only hang onto about 3 shards that I might some day have interest in pursuing mastery on. Otherwise, it's getting recycled into my Emporium Points Blue Essence.

 

Because Champion shards are so easy to acquire now, I humbly request that hextech chests have them removed from the pool of loot. Instead, I would suggest increasing the likelihood of 520 and under skins, emotes, and wards from that chest, making the Masterwork chest the "premium" skin chest with an increased chance of rolling 975 or higher skins. This would hugely alleviate the frustration from earning a champion shards after saving all your key frags, and I think would really tie together the box system as a whole.

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Kurt Hyzan6/28/2018, 10:43:08 PM26 votes
  • Waits 2 weeks to get enough keys
  • Opens 2 chests
  • Gets Nunu twice
My Waifu Vanilla6/29/2018, 12:32:47 AM14 votes

Just make it adapt to what you need. Weigh it towards champ shards if you don't have champions and towards skins if you have more champs. I have had every champion for the past year and a half or longer and have more BE than I would ever want. There is zero reason for me to ever buy chests or any loot system for that matter when there is a chance I'll get something that is absolutely useless. If anything a more constant influx of skin shards would make me buy more boxes because the conversion rate for skin shards is STILL complete ass.

QueenAqua6/29/2018, 1:45:45 AM9 votes

I get what you mean. It's really frustrating to get champ shards. The only reason I used to buy chests at all was for the gemstones so I could get hextech Annie, but once I got the shard in an arcade orb, I stopped buying them because of getting champ shards. Whether you buy them or not, getting champ shards is a really bad feeling when you consider you have to get an s ranking on a champ you haven't gotten an s on this season and farm key shards that have become more of a rarity since the honor level update. Then wait a while to rinse and repeat. Way too much work for so little reward imo. I do think BE is in a bad state, but honestly the amount you get from a champ shard in chests isn't enough to argue that it would hurt BE income that much. Idk about anyone else, but I get really crappy champs whenever I get a champ shard in a free chest (1350 and under). There's no minimum BE amount for these like there is for champ capsules.

So sorry if its an unpopular opinion, but currently I feel its too much work for a chest to warrant getting a champ shard in a hextech chest and this is coming from someone who doesn't have every champ and has a sever lack of BE to buy them, activate mastery, or buy chroma. If anything, a hextech chest should give cosmetic things and those arguing that they need the BE shouldn't be complaining about champs being removed, but should be saying this is a good idea and ask for a buff to the amount of BE you can get from capsules. Hextech champs being removed wouldn't be the problem with BE. The problem with BE is the fact it doesn't work like ip did. You used to get ip for every game with the first win giving you a bonus. You could pay to get up boosts for x amount of games or time if that was your choice. The conversion to BE removed that ability to purchase, removed getting the free currency every game, and nerfed the first win of the day bonus, which wasn't even there originally. I could see people arguing against the removal of champs before the level cap was removed and the introduction of capsules for every level, but now that those things exist that's no reason to argue against it. And this change would give more OE so you can activate things more easily.

Just ask for a BE buff to capsules and first win. Arguing against this when rng could just give you 1350 BE champs and below doesn't really solve the BE problem. It solves the OE problem and gives people reason to ask for "compensation" buffs to BE in general. Keeping the current system in hextech chests just means they are unsatisfying and unimpactful overall. If you want BE, these chests don't help much. If you want OE, they still don't help much. They leave a lot of people unhappy regardless if you buy them or earn them.

Saezio6/28/2018, 11:14:19 PM6 votes

WOULDNT IT BE GREAT IF CHAMPION BOXES GAVE KEY FRAGMENTS TOO? Seriously if you think about it if people end up with spare keys they might even consider buying extra boxes for RP?

Nea1046/29/2018, 5:08:34 PM5 votes

Expecially cheap champions... Just another way to frustrate their playerbase :P

Taikobou6/29/2018, 1:18:46 PM4 votes

On my Youtube channel i've made a video of how a believe hextech chests should always have orange stuff, cosmetics, since capsules only have blue stuff, champion shards. On the last season i was hyped to get an S and one a chest, for a chance to get a nice skin, now i really dont care about getting an S, because the hextech system is dead. i have 128k BE, i have all the champions, the reward and loot system has nothing to offer me, besides champion shards and BE.

Beyond that, End Game is inexistent on League. If you have everything, all champions, thee is nothing else to grind, besides a victorious skin when reach gold, from a random champion that you might not even play.

And the amount of icons and emotes that popup from time to time is absurd. Summoner Icons should have more interaction in game, like the orbital blast in urf, or the fire and ice team, that turn the enemy into a block of ice, when you kill him.

But, if you look at other games, League has a prehistorical client, Lion and Wolf orbs are images floating, they didnt even had the effort of making a 3D model with animation and particules. Riot is a really lucky company to still have such a huge base of players, given the ammount of laziness they do.

Miron Forestria6/29/2018, 11:54:07 PM4 votes

Being honest, I still have a few champions left to snag, and getting the shards out of boxes has been helping fill that out. But now that the leveling canisters are available, it feels like a pointless waste to get champion shards out of boxes even when I still have champions left to get, especially since the disenchant BE amount is so ridiculously low. You can't really even do much with the excess of shards even while you are still buying champions. I've got, like, 8 4300 champs and 12 6300 champs left to get, and I just can't seem to get them because of how slow the champ grind is with this system. So unless you're really low level, it doesn't even benefit you while you don't have much BE.

Xilixer6/29/2018, 3:07:51 AM4 votes

Or how about we also get boxes from playing champions we don't own? It is so painful to earn an S+ only to be told. Too bad you can't be rewarded for your good play because you don't actually own them. It makes me grit my teeth and twitch my eye every time i read that.

ΦmalphintoΦ6/29/2018, 3:59:04 AM4 votes

i have got my last 56 boxes all champions shards, 45 months almost 1 box every month u know new honor system.

Now im really annoyed know why? people? cause there is like 800 Skins out there THAT you can't buy with real money.

Now im not a fan of buying boxes and getting a stick in my ass, if i can buy a skin i would buy it.

But now its really bad company that forces us to buy boxes and try to get that (RANDOM) skin that have a 00.1% chance to get from buying boxes with RP.

if you think im lying here it is (underworld wukong) a skin for 1 year i can't get. cause i dont buy boxes.

And all the skins in the store are garbage, even the new ones, the only good skins i bought already.

Edit: almost the good skins are not purchasable only by buying boxes (and trying to be that dumb ass).

Nevrankroaton6/29/2018, 5:37:19 AM4 votes

I don't agree with this at all, if anything, the LOL lootbox system is one of the healthier I saw in a long time. The game never oblige you to pay anything for gameplay or a pay 2 win, you have the possibility to gain cosmetic for free (Cosmetic which are kinda the way Riot make a good amount of money out of the game itself, outside of the whole competitive circuit). You can reroll shard or disenchant them, if one of them you want it, you can keep it as long as you want.

VERY expensive skin are given FREELY, I gained two ultimate skin with the lootbox and I find that insane.

So honestly.... No, especially because the champion shard can be super cool for new player or help them grind faster, and we have a luck prevention system to make sure you don't get screwed.

Bloodiko6/29/2018, 11:45:42 AM4 votes

Well I have like 25 keys or smth But no chest..... I get a key fragment almost daily from honor system

SpecterVonBaren6/29/2018, 4:00:40 AM2 votes

Perhaps them having shards is a design choice made for newer players rather than veterans?

Necro Warrior876/29/2018, 12:07:58 AM1 votes

Good thinking! Now I just have to wait 5000 years to get every single champ in league from my daily dose of 50 BE!