Seraph's Embrace VS Luden's Echo

Triggydor·Feb 12, 2019·1 votes·2,360 views

Seraph's Embrace VS Luden's Echo:

A lot of players choose one or the other. My question is "why not both?" LE seems to play off of SE well. It gives LE +18 AP bringing it to a complete 108 AP. (that's before Deathcap) Especially if you have the Transcendence rune for that extra CDR AP. Top it off with Rod of Ages then Rabadons's.

Here's my math:

Seraph's Embrace 50 AP +42 (Awe passive from SE) 1400 Mana 20 CDR

Luden's Echo 90 AP +18 (Awe passive from SE) 600 Mana 20C CDR (potentially plus 20 AP with Transcendence)

Rod of Ages 100 AP +12 (Awe passive from SE) 500 Health 400 Mana

6 Comments

0 HogapuFeb 12, 20191 votes

( Dont forget that the CDR passive, Haste, doesn't stack. You don't gain 40 CDR from both items, but 30% )

TriggydorFeb 12, 20191 votes

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( Dont forget that the CDR passive, Haste, doesn't stack. You don't gain 40 CDR from both items, but 30% )

Solid point. And only if it passes the CDR limit. (obviously)

CochoFeb 12, 20191 votes

you dont need that much mana, and something like void staff, rabadons, or morello is going to be more damage.

Tuition FeeFeb 12, 20191 votes

Ryze Could work on this guy I guess

xDogMeatxFeb 13, 20191 votes

Also because he read the book item 3165 so he wins.

WeeWeeBojanglesFeb 13, 20191 votes

Seraphs staph is for sustain damage champs. Like cass, ryze, kassadin. Champions that spam abilities. While Luden Is more burst focused. You don't usually build both on the same champion because they are designed for the complete opposite reason.