Who, exactly, does riot think this item will open the jungle to? Originally I thought maybe kat or akali but it's a mana item and both would have benefitted more from magus. So really, what underplayed ap champ would benefit from runeglaive more than magus? And it's definitely not karma either..
These are some of the champions who might like this item, due to poor clears, high mana costs, and/or spammable skills.
The thing is, a lot of those like to build Lich Bane already, which makes this item seem like somewhat bad value (or will at least force them to change up their builds.)
In terms of actual balance, I think the item is still in early days and will probably get tweaked a bit in the next patch, so let's ignore its power level and instead focus on what it does:
So, it would help someone who has trouble clearing and who generally runs out of mana, while also having fairly low-cooldown abilities.
What it doesn't provide is health sustain, which is something that I think most non-Fiddle mage junglers are missing.
Diana. She is the only jungle that may like the mana regen and can use the runeglaive effect.(don't expect to see her much though) Probably some exotic picks in normal games.
The only one I think is karthus. But again these are all troll picks that would get counter jungled by any meta jungler. I guess maybe cass? Still, who among any of them really benefits more from runeglaive than magus?
It also seems like it was a buff for Elise, which is fine, but it's a nerf to every other ap jungler for sure and it's not gonna pull anyone that different in.
will make ap fizz jungle viable. it will help ap eve, diana, ekko, elise, viktor? kassadin^^
Jungle APs - which does not necessarily mean AP mages. It means magic-damage based champions scaling on AP that thrive in the jungle, but not necessarily in a laning situation. Including, but not limited to:
Also keep in mind that the AP item overhaul is not yet complete, but coming in the next patch, and how it affects those champions described above.
For example, Skarner really synergizes well with a Sheen, and his synergy with AP is not too bad, either. Give him Runeglaive and Rylai's on 5.13, and you're looking at one mean crystal scorpion - 40% permaslow inc.
the question still was who does it benefit MORE than magus? yeah plenty of champs can use it, but most AP champs would have been much better off thru the whole game with magus. I just think they undershot the stats, namely the AP. so, again, who does it pull in to the jungle who wasn't there before?
and i still really dont understand how its better for eve. shes my main jungler so 40 AP and a subpar spell blade, compared to all the other items you'd normally buy on her (iceborn, triforce) and the dock in CDR and AP is a huge nerf to AP eve. Why everyone thinks its better on her is just plain stupid to me. I'm just gonna use warrior instead because it gives the same damage on her Q and more on her E and autos and i can buy a better sheen item.
Honestly just naming mages i have either A.Seen in the jungle B.Think it would be funny to see.
From what I read the elise players have said that runeglaive is bad on her cause the other half of her kit doesn't need mana so i'm guessing that goes for nid also magus was a better choice for karma who shouldn't jungle -_- gragas is fine without it. Ruinglaive might really help lux out a lot lol. fiz doesn't need it.
