Please nerf experience gain and disable first win of the day for Coop vs AI game modes

kattzkitti··2 votes·749 views

So tired of getting FWotD and exp farmers. Coop vs AI should be a place to go to get away from these type of people, a mode where you can just kick your feet up and have a relaxing 20-30 min game where it's more about the social interaction than getting the win at all costs.

The fact that it gives equivalent/more exp than a normal game and also lets you get a free win for your FWotD, is the entire reason this problem exists. There's no reason you should get equivalent/more exp beating down on bots than you would get fighting actual players, and the fact that it's almost impossible to lose defeats the entire point of a FWotD bonus (which is to encourage people to try their best to win... in a real match).

Assuming you min/max your loadout (runes, masteries, team comp, etc) and just stack mid to rush the nexus, you should receive at most 50% of the exp you would've gotten from a real match of the same length. Better would be if exp gain starts off pitiful (<10% of the exp you'd normally get), and scales up as the match drags on (but still hard capped at less than a normal match so that you still can't get equivalent exp).

This would accomplish (at least) two things:

  • Bolster normal matches, which is a win for everyone.
  • Clear out most of the farmers from Coop vs AI, which greatly improves the quality of matches.

5 Comments

Khristophoros2 votes

Are you complaining that the bot games end too fast? lmao

Sometimes I play them to get more familiar with a champion's mechanics but I'm not gonna drag the game on for 40 minutes. I'm going to kill the bots over and over and push the lanes because I'd be incredibly bored otherwise. So naturally it'll end quickly.

69019505DEL11 votes

Listen youngster the majority have moved onto ARAM which includes bots most of the time now.

Infernape1 votes

The fact that it gives equivalent/more exp than a normal game and also lets you get a free win for your FWotD, is the entire reason this problem exists.

Not for people level 20+. Co-op vs AI games give 90% XP (at intermediate level) if you're level 20-29 and 80% at level 30. At beginner level, it gives 70% for levels 20-29 and 55% if you're level 30.

sketchy11 votes

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So tired of getting FWotD and exp farmers. Coop vs AI should be a place to go to get away from these type of people, a mode where you can just kick your feet up and have a relaxing 20-30 min game where it&#039;s more about the social interaction than getting the win at all costs.

The fact that it gives equivalent/more exp than a normal game and also lets you get a free win for your FWotD, is the entire reason this problem exists. There&#039;s no reason you should get equivalent/more exp beating down on bots than you would get fighting actual players, and the fact that it&#039;s almost impossible to lose defeats the entire point of a FWotD bonus (which is to encourage people to try their best to win... in a real match).

Assuming you min/max your loadout (runes, masteries, team comp, etc) and just stack mid to rush the nexus, you should receive at most 50% of the exp you would&#039;ve gotten from a real match of the same length. Better would be if exp gain starts off pitiful (&lt;10% of the exp you&#039;d normally get), and scales up as the match drags on (but still hard capped at less than a normal match so that you still can&#039;t get equivalent exp).

This would accomplish (at least) two things:

  • Bolster normal matches, which is a win for everyone.
  • Clear out most of the farmers from Coop vs AI, which greatly improves the quality of matches.

whats wrong with farming for a garunteed win? and they give decreased rewards anyway

Nahui1 votes

Co OP vs AI was never a social, relaxing place. It's a place to try a champion if you're too sensitive to possible criticism in a regular normal.

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