So Season 6 Will Be The Marksmen Meta

BlunterMonk·10/29/2015, 3:26:13 PM·92 votes·21,431 views

From all the things going on:

  • Many Marksmen are getting reworks/buffs
  • Tanks are easily killable thanks to the new itemization, decreased cost of item 3035 , plus the crazy amount of %HP true damage Fiora Darius Vayne
  • Quinn changes making her go mid lane
  • The addition of marksmen in the jungle Kindred

Since they officially destroyed the "tank meta", ADCs no longer need to worry about a wall in the way.

Anyone can duel anyone

167 Comments

BastionKross10/29/2015, 3:34:14 PM78 votes

Let's get one thing straight here: Nearly every season so far has been a marksman meta. Your team comp will 99% of the time contain a marksman of some sort, and it's been that way since season 1. They are not optional like other roles.

Tanks come and go. Assassins come and go. Mages come and go. Bruisers come and go. Fighters come and go. Marksman are forever.

Meep Man10/29/2015, 3:35:58 PM23 votes

Im going Graves Top to abuse that "shotgun blast to the face is solution to all my problems" thing. And to be able to say "I came here to kick ass and smoke cigars, and Rito took all my cigars."

On a serious note, all of these AD items can also be abused by Assassins except for a select few.

OxBaker10/29/2015, 3:28:48 PM14 votes

We will have to wait and see if your prediction is true but I think it's fair to say that RIOT has a track record of favoring the ADC's over other roles so I wouldn't be surprised if we see tanks go away again... not that they ever managed to make a full comeback in S5 in the fist place...

7ha7guy77710/29/2015, 3:42:31 PM14 votes

Is it just me, or will the ad item changes make AD Malzahar scarier?

hhaavviikk10/29/2015, 6:15:30 PM13 votes

been ADC meta since season 1, ADC mandatory every game

Incognonymous10/30/2015, 1:03:51 AM9 votes

Tank player here. Put up with this bullshit since season 2. I'll give preseason the benefit of a doubt, but if we get to season 7 and OP is right, I'm done. I don't enjoy playing marksmen. I don't want them on my team. I don't want to play against them. I'm tired of being crit for a 1000 from 700 units through 200 armor. Tired of them soloing my turrets without a minion wave. Tired of them taking dragon and baron easier than my junglers. The amount of favoritism is absolutely unfathomable. No other class is coddled like ADCs, none.

Curious to see what happens when the dust settles, but worst case scenario I uninstall this game.

Stevev4510/29/2015, 3:34:23 PM7 votes

And now they can't be bursted Death's Dance

Lugg10/29/2015, 10:10:56 PM6 votes

It's looking like most games will be 5 Marksmen vs 5 Marksmen. With the reworks, masteries, and new items, they really don't have any glaring weakness.

Sasogwa10/29/2015, 3:54:57 PM5 votes

Well actually "ADC's don't have to worry about a wall" is kinda weird thinking, because ADC's are the primary killers of tanks.

I wonder what you mean by anyone can duel anyone, because random examples that come to my mind are a melee kiteable champion trying to 1v1 a Kalista or a Vayne ; or a Soraka trying to 1v1 a Yi. Doesn't end well in either case.

BluePolarizer10/30/2015, 12:58:16 AM5 votes

ADC meta since season 1, but never has there been a meta where 4 ADCs + 1 support was possible.

Until now.

Graves Kindred Quinn Ashe Leona

Sure this comp is lacking and squishy, but it is at least possible to use and not feed horribly. That itself is worrying.

kaltenashes10/29/2015, 9:02:45 PM4 votes

next season, a void dragon will spawn in the center of the sr's map and support items will make it possible to have a pentasteal for the support, something like "if you buff an ally with this, every kill he gets (in 40 secs) is yours" =D

Szunray10/29/2015, 4:34:54 PM4 votes

Oh please. I remember when Riot made marksmen optional, in the juggernaut meta. Yeah, you could even replace your marksman with a juggernaut and win consistently!

However Mordekaiser has not been well received...

My point is you can't say it will be a marksman meta. ADC were more or lessv required for years. We're finally in a time where an alternative exists, and most board posters are trying to force the one bot lane melee carry into a solo lane.

For all we know Illaoi is a bot lane juggernaut!

Edit: I should also mention how pissy people get when you try to take Quinn Top. It's understandable seeing as top and jungle is usually where tanks go. You make it seem like this marksmen meta will have marksmen all over the place when, from my experience, people don't even want a marksman jungler because they already have one in bot lane (and refuse to change comp accordingly).

Graves top, Quinn Mid, Kindred Jungle, Caitlyn Bot... Sounds like a terrible, terrible teamcomp. They're going to pick one adc, and send them bot lane, until Pro players do it differently.

g07h4xf0010/29/2015, 4:51:54 PM4 votes

WTF is this "tank meta" you speak of?

Lao Fu the Tiger10/29/2015, 4:22:34 PM4 votes

You DO realise that item 3035 now shreds bonus armour, not total armour?