AP Junglers Need Help

JettCon·3/28/2018, 10:45:37 PM·7 votes·1,524 views

Nidalee Elise Gragas Speaking directly about these champions. (I know Gragas can be a stretch and perhaps Diana is a stronger mid laner now). I recognize right now Evelynn is in a pretty good spot right now but I think that's more of her the nature of her kit carrying her. However the rest of these AP junglers are not in a good spot right now. First of all the average game length gold + is less than 26 minutes. Its frustrating that the average games are so short but these junglers that thrive in the early game are not meta. I play a lot of Nidalee and Elise and they feel very weak right now compared to other junglers. It feels like if you're not playing a tank or shaco + khazix you're already at a disadvantage. And perhaps at the top of the elo chain these champions can be pretty decent but in elos below diamond+ your team cannot run with the advantages you score as well as better players.

At +Plat Elos: Nidalee and Elise sit at ~48% win rates Gragas at 45% Diana at 48.5% The win rates then continuously drop in Plat -> Gold -> etc..

Picking an AP jungler right now just feels bad. I see Elise may be getting buffs next patch I believe Nidalee and Gragas need buffs as well.

Maybe not even buffs, but these champions need to be looked at because right now it feels awkward to pick almost every AP Jungler in the current meta.

9 Comments

WindLord70703/29/2018, 12:00:30 AM2 votes

nidalee needs reverted back to 5.1 and re-balanced in general so she can lane again

amazingamaze3/29/2018, 6:41:28 AM1 votes

Oh great more powercreep incoming, let's bring up "weak" champs that need "buffs" instead of focusing on the dominant abominations that need heavily layered nerfs until they fall down into line with the rest.

Wet Dryman3/29/2018, 8:21:08 AM1 votes

Gragas has pretty powerful buffs happening on PBE so he is getting looked at and in a good way (they want him to build more AP oriented builds so maybe they will finally push him away from being Tank).

Killer of Night93/29/2018, 8:32:47 AM1 votes

Fiddlesticks <--- Who play him anymore?

LilBadWitch3/29/2018, 9:46:34 AM1 votes

A buff to Nidalee's heal might be a route to take to create more consistency in her kit and reaffirm her secondary role of off-meta support. Possibly bring her back to solo-lane too.

If she fails her skillshot-centric ganks she can still impact the lanes with decent sustain. It could also open her up to being in lane more often again if she could handle poke better to waveclear with cougar form. (A lot of old nidalee players would love to be able to do that.)

iPooUnicorns3/29/2018, 9:42:13 PM1 votes

Runic Echoes needs buffs/mini rework