Infinity Edge should have as bad build path as Rabadons

Ahris··3 votes·774 views

Both serve their purpose, the more base stats you have, the stronger the damage you deal. However, now buying IE first is optimal for many ADC because it gives them one of highest powerspike at early lvls. Mages have no reason to build Rabadons because it is not cost efficient in early lvls compared to other items and its build path is way too bad.

item 3031 (3400 gold): 70 AD + 20% Crit + 50% crit damage

item 1038 + item 1037 + item 1018 + 425 gold

item 3089 (3800 gold): 120 AP + 35% AP

item 1058 + item 1026 + item 1052 + 1265 gold

To make Infirnity Edge Less appealing, remove 5 AD from Infinity Edge so that you are buying for only the unique passive and increase the cost of Infinity Edge to 3800. Also replace pickaxe with long sword so that ADC is forced to have a horrible build path to build into Infinity Edge. It should look like this after the changes:

item 3031 (3800 gold) : 65 AD + 20% Crit + 50% Crit damage Up

item 1038 + item 1036 + item 1018 + 1350 gold

There, it looks around the same in terms of effectiveness as rabadons . Infinity Edge will serve as a late game item just like the APC. Only be strong when you have a good amount of AD. If you are getting edge at your first buy, it just means the item is broken. Think about getting rabadons first buy. It is supposed to be a late game item in the first place. The cost increase is there because ADC's build path is cheaper than APC, and APC should be reaching their full builds faster than ADC anyway. Even with 400 gold increase ADC will still have cheaper build paths(i believe). It isn't fair for ADC to have such a broken powerspike lategame while having arguable better midgame than mages.

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warpenguin5553 votes

or we could just fix deathcap

Ahris1 votes

I doubt Riot would as they kept on nerfing mages for several seasons now. Favoritism is so real : /

DeathBurst2 votes

You're comparing Mages and ADC, and this is just stupid.

  • Mages: generally have a very high Burst and underwhelming DPS, usually highest level on the map and spike in mid game. They focus other squishies and don't want to waste their CD on Tanks.
  • ADC: mid to lowish Burst, the best DPS of any champ in the League, lag in levels due to sharing XP in a Duo Lane, and spike in the late game. Their main job is to get rid of the enemy frontline.

The two role have pretty much nothing in common, so why should their itemization be parallel?

Ahris1 votes

I am comparing item build paths. Not about what their role is w.e . That is controversial to discuss anyway. ADC should not also have cheaper builds than APC. They should have just as bad or worse time building their item.

DeathBurst1 votes

Except they already have, because APC don't buy Deathcap at the same time that ADC buy IE. They buy Morello or Rod of Ages, which DO have a better buildpath than IE.

Ahris1 votes

Comparing Rabadons to IE because both serve similar purpose...

DeathBurst1 votes

Well, that's exactly what I'm trying to say since 3 posts ago: NO, they do NOT serve a similar purpose.

Rabadon is a full build power spike that helps Mages scale into the late game beyond the point where their kit starts to fall off.

IE is a 2nd/3rd item power spike that enables ADC coming on-line and makes their basic attack truly hurt. It makes them reach the point where their kit finally becomes useful, it does NOT serve to replace their falling off kit.

Ahris1 votes

Their basic attsck is not supposed to hurt till lategame. That is why ADCs sre allowed to have such a broken lategame.

Warmanreaper1 votes

Kid you just killed a few of my chromesomes.. you don't realize.. Raba's is more broken than I.e... I.E is a pretty good go to.. but Rabas can give you over 200 AP just from its passive late game.. that shit is broken as fuck

Ahris1 votes

If you wrote that with all the dead chromosomes it makes sense. IE gives AD carry to potentially do over 1k damage per auto attacks. Considering it also stacks with Static shiv. How is that 200 AP going to help in anyway? LOOOL.

AD has basically 250% coming from IE + crit base for the AD they have. Late game they can go to over around +600 damage per auto. How is that balanced?

Warmanreaper1 votes

Kay, well Mages late game played right can 1 shot any adc besides urgot. How is that balanced? Or what about ahri, the girl that charms for 50 years and bursts you without you being able to do shit, or ziggs the mage that just smashes his keyboard and wins lane, maybe brand that most broken live-ignite champion in the game with burn effect, possibly malz? The broken Ult stacked with minions, or maybe even for all we know syndra post nerf, still being able to 1 tap people with her ult. I'm sorry What universe are you from cause jesus christ you have no idea what the actual fuck you're talking about.

Ahris1 votes

Mages need to land skill shot while adc doesn't need to land anything.

Syndra killed you with just ulti? Well her ulti has much longer cd then your autos and after she use her ulti on you, which is like 675 range, pretty sure your team already killed her(to be honest if you let syndra come that close to you, you don't deserve to win).

Why in the world are ADCs allowed to have APC lvl of burst in just 2 autos? Why are they allowed to do so much damage from just right clicking? For easy roles they need to be a lot less effective than harder roles.

Colton1471 votes

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Kid you just killed a few of my chromesomes.. you don't realize.. Raba's is more broken than I.e... I.E is a pretty good go to.. but Rabas can give you over 200 AP just from its passive late game.. that shit is broken as fuck

So AD is allowed to deal damage, but AP can't? :/

Warmanreaper1 votes

AD dmg is way less than AP damage..

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