Whats a Garen and how do i kill it.

oOCaillouOo·9/9/2015, 2:31:17 PM·16 votes·2,869 views

When garen is running around 2 tier tower with his q and taking 9 tower shots getting the kill and then getting out safely. What do you do? When you gank as sej, and you hit him with your slow, and he q's away with still 90%health, what do you do? When you camp a garen, and every time you get some cc on him he breaks free from it, what do you do? When he builds deadmans plate and boots of swiftness and he gets 500+ movement speed every 6 seconds for 3 seconds, what do you do? What is a garen, and how do I kill it?

50 Comments

KVbqbFsC8e9/9/2015, 2:39:39 PM7 votes

Ban phase.

Meep Man9/9/2015, 3:43:13 PM5 votes

You call the Tankbusters!

Fiora KogMaw Vayne

Matezoide9/9/2015, 5:16:07 PM4 votes

You do realise old Garen was more mobile and tankier, right?

How is he "breaking free" of any CC that isnt a slow? They deleted his Tenacity.

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His Q does 140 damage at level 1. If you are a melee champion there is nothing you can do to trade with that regardless of whether or not his early game was nerfed.

Saying simply stay away from him is not a mechanic. If he is so strong you simply can't go near him without the risk of losing half your hp at level 1 and 2 then that is toxic not him being strong as a champion

Q does the exact same amount of damage as it did pre-rework lmao

I mean, come on guys. If you are going to QQ about a champion that just got nerfed, at least complain about the aspects of his kit that are not weaker than pre-rework.

Fowus9/9/2015, 2:34:06 PM3 votes

%maxhp true damage

AyRe CoNteMpT9/9/2015, 2:34:00 PM3 votes

dont pick sej

Edgar Van Ekart9/9/2015, 2:41:24 PM2 votes

item 3153

AccountaBilabudy9/9/2015, 5:56:46 PM2 votes

Trundle +item 3153

xxxMadLionxxx9/9/2015, 2:35:14 PM2 votes

lol

Countermander9/10/2015, 6:20:20 PM2 votes

I quote myself in another post, also about Garen, which I commented on.

link: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/EszJrhoM-garen-was-nerfed-still-ban-worthy

Quote:

Hello, unintelligible Kyoki Shinkuro (good choice of name for a European)

I am a Korean plat who loves to visit the boards.

A statistical report on Solo Que LoL plays in Korea have been announced recently,

and GAREN was the lowest in Win Rates in TOP Lane, with 46.31% WR, for Diamonds and above.

Let that sink in.

As someone who plays a lot of Garen, I can no longer play him well because of how he's changed; I won 70% of games before the rework, now I keep losing.

Garen has to work his butt off to RUN TO THAT DUDE to slam his ult. If you can't kite, you must be in silver and below.

Here's the link to the stat report. http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2778&l=37854

Baunjo9/9/2015, 8:08:36 PM2 votes

LOL garen is the subject of the OP QQs now?

TehNACHO9/9/2015, 3:37:27 PM2 votes

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When you camp a garen, and every time you get some cc on him he breaks free from it, what do you do?

Wait what.

Anywho, depending on his build, your best bet is to team up a dedicated Tank Buster (generally the ADC, though most any DPS champ that isn't melee and Trundle can take the job) and a peeler if you're using a squishy ranged Tank Buster. Peel and kite; Garen relies on sitting on enemies for an extended amount of time to kill them and most Tank Busters will outpace Garen in terms of raw damage.

Stephenizgod9/10/2015, 7:05:16 AM2 votes

Its funny, everyone use to laugh at me or just straight quit out of champ select if i picked Garen in ranked, now he is suddenly OP... I won lane and the dude non-stop bitched about how bs the rework was, but he wasnt even the villain! Like im pretty sure they weakened Garen's laning phase in favor of the Villain mechanic... When i use to win as Garen people would say "pick a champion that requires skill" now its "Garen is too OP RITO PLZ NERF GET GUD"... face it you guys suck... he can be killed and its not hard to harass him. I face people all the time who know how to handle Garen, they do just fine and they dont complain. Learn.

JusticePauldrons9/9/2015, 3:43:58 PM2 votes

Garen Main here and I will just throw in what stops me and others when I lane against Garens. Shut him down during his weakened laning phase, his late game is actually good now but his early game was hurt. The new items are what make him really strong, kick his ass before he can get them. Stop the early black cleaver and you stop his early game.

  • Keep in mind his early game was NERFED, the silence duration, w stacking mechanics, and E ticks are all LESS EFFECTIVE THAN BEFORE until he levels.

  • When he uses his Q, back up to safety until he wastes it. Keep it mind it will only start to cool down once the effect ends, so the longer he holds on to it the longer he can't use it again for the speed boost.

  • After he Q's a minion or lets it wear off, engage on him. Believe it or not the Q is a MASSIVE portion of his early game damage, not having it up prevents him from escaping and getting off a silence.

  • If you are the villain, do not stay within the spin radius at all, it simply isn't worth it. Farm near tower.

  • Use any level of ranged harass or longer melee spells to prevent his passive from kicking in. Most ranged harass has a short enough cooldown to constantly keep it down. If he doesn't have his passive up he won't be able to rely on trading damage and recovering.

  • Regarding his W think of it the same as his Q. Instead of offering damage it offers strong mitigation, but has a huge cooldown. Force him to pop it and then back off, once the duration has ended you can deal damage to his regularly. Keep in mind the passive resistances are worse than before during the early game, offering only as much as having 150 armor bonus would before when fully stacked. (translation: Two cloth armors, woooooooo)

  • During the late game you pretty much just have to throw crowd control his way or force him into teamfights. He isn't unkillable, but you definitely shouldn't be focusing him. Rely on crowd control and ranged harass to turn the fight into your favor.

  • For the love of god buy wards, there is nothing more satisfying than camping the enemy bush and getting free kills from squishies facechecking.

Matezoide9/10/2015, 8:11:59 PM1 votes

> People still thinking Garen's Q is an amazing mobility/damage spell > People thinking Garen is still a lane bully and tanky early game

Again, he is definetly strong, but please complain about the right things instead of stuff that got heavily nerfed when he was reworked.

KidSpectre9/9/2015, 5:54:08 PM1 votes

item 3153 For that short term. item 3022 For that long term. item 3800 2 fast 2 quick. item 3056 So relentless, not even towers can stop ya.

AccountaBilabudy9/9/2015, 5:57:17 PM1 votes

Or top lane Vayne

JustMyBassCannon9/9/2015, 6:56:22 PM1 votes

To Garen, press Garen.

To not Garen, too bad, you have to Garen, so press Garen.

GAREEENNN!

(seriously though, most of his kit tools were nerfed by the Juggernaut changes, he got a tiny bit of bonus damage against whoever's the Villain)

Beoridas9/9/2015, 7:33:53 PM1 votes

A garen is a promise you make as a salesman to a customer in order to upsale an argument about said product.

DarthSpectrum9/10/2015, 3:03:25 AM1 votes

Garen is pretty powerful right now. Statistically, he is the best top laner, perhaps tied with Darius. (Fiora's winrate took a hit recently.)

I find that Vayne and Fiora are excellent counters. He is never going to get close if you play Vayne. Just AA him to death.

As Fiora, you can parry his Q during trades, and parry his ultimate if he all ins. Garen can't fight you either for sustained skirmishes because you can 100-0 him with your &maximum health true damage ultimate.

Insane Pyromanic9/10/2015, 3:54:17 AM1 votes

If youre looking for lane matchups top, you probably should pick one of these, its pretty much impossible to die early to him: Darius Gangplank Heimerdinger Jayce Gnar Volibear Lulu Lissandra Kennen Olaf That's not even counting the crazy amount of other rest champions that are good against him outside of lane. He's still a meatball with no disables, just cc him , don't try to sit his face and slap fight him like a magikarp. He's also literally one of the worst teamfighting champions in the game. His tp ganks suck too. I think I've only lost to 2 to 3 garens in the last 2 patches out of the huge number ive played against and it was never because of him we lost. They key to beating juggers is playing like a pansy, you'll avoid all their damage and make them want to uninstall trying to chase you down to kill you.

AccountaBilabudy9/10/2015, 7:39:12 PM1 votes

Everyone forgets this guy Trundle

He is extremely strong level 1, and is a tank buster.

Pæan9/10/2015, 8:01:04 PM1 votes

A garen is a strange creature that resides within the various bushes planted around the rift. Known to utter something of Demacia and justice, though his true origins are unknown.
It is greatly possible he descends from a species of hedgehog or bandicoot (of the Crash genus) due to the great velocity of his spinning and immunity to nauseating dizziness.