No, no, please keep it, its healthy

Trap or a Trick·Sep 15, 2017·53 votes·2,665 views

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Ps. Beat ya to it Vandiril

37 Comments

Glory ln DeathSep 15, 201729 votes

Don't worry, it's just a small buff. He'll only get a little stronger from this. His playrate may rise, but it'll be short-lived.

EkyonKunSep 15, 201719 votes

Veigar Wait a second....IS THAT A SHORT JOKE?!

Glory ln DeathSep 15, 20179 votes

I hate to admit that I stooped that low, but it is a little bit of a short joke...

MhihnjSep 16, 20172 votes

stop. Little good comes from this.

48983507DEL1Sep 15, 20171 votes

kms

koshkyraSep 15, 201727 votes

WTF!

VEIGAR GETS LIKE 200 STACKS PER 30 MIN!

TheLastShadow45Sep 15, 201711 votes

Calm down, it's a multiplicative increase. So it takes a lot of stacks to get 100%.

FairyfleurSep 15, 201717 votes

Apparently it takes something like 2,560 stacks.

PrimaquariusSep 15, 20179 votes

This is if you CS well and hit a lot of spells on Champions, so stacks are varied

SpoofghoulSep 16, 20171 votes

It's easy enough though

i mean all you need to do is poke enemies and make assists/kills to get a ton of stacks And ofc you will want to cs well

But i play full tank veigar for a reason

I mean i have like huge ap ratio's on pretty high base damage abilities ill be slinging 700 spell damage from range with my tank

and i have an ult on my E and a fu button on my R it's kinda funny

PrimaquariusSep 16, 20171 votes

R is "Go To Sleep"

Morfars SnapsSep 16, 20172 votes

"U need a lot of stacks, befor it is OP." Veigar

Bob the ToastrSep 15, 20173 votes

Yeah, and if I'm having a really good game I can average 10 stacks/min.

Agent CorgiSep 15, 20176 votes

I saw this & started chuckling at this change. No doubt this is going to make Veigar Veigar alot stronger, However I don't think this will break him (At least not right away). Sure He'll be able to Rain down Projectiles that deal Precisely [100 / 150 / 200 / 250 / 300] (+ 100% AP), but he does have Mana costs. Currently, those Mana costs are as follows [60 / 65 / 70 / 75 / 80]. Assuming Veigar does not opt into buying Tear of the Goddess item 3070 (which would give him a much larger Mana Pool & Mana Refunds), Veigar could drain his entire pool before he knows it. Now if they do decide they want him to have this, but it ends up being really strong to the point he needs a nerf, they are going to do one or two things;

Increase Mana Costs
Reduce either base damage or AP Ratio.

Hello I am BirdSep 15, 20177 votes

But tear is so good on Veig :v

morris1Sep 15, 20178 votes

item 3040 item 3027 Welcome to Scale Town.

MetalGearTeemuSep 15, 20171 votes

can't agree. Viegar needs stats now, not later. If you're concerned about your regen you should pick up item 3165 or go right to your item 3285 to go for murder

The Yetii RiderSep 15, 20176 votes

I don't know about any of you, but I personally think this is EXACTLY what Veigar needs.

Dark Matter has felt lackluster since the delayed Event Horizon from the rework. Now, what you can do is throw down Event Horizon and then drop a barrage of meteors all over the caged area to try and maximize your damage. Isn't that exactly what a final boss like Veigar would do?

Combine that with the Sorcery keystone Meteor and Veigar is an incredibly dangerous, bursty champion even without his ultimate.

ModKnightsKemplarSep 15, 20171 votes

That's certainly an interesting way to look at it.

I mean, he can't just endlessly drop them; you need a TON of stacks for the 100% cooldown, but I don't mind him having it simply because it's such a tough shot to hit.

Votable JesterSep 16, 20176 votes

Did you try getting to 110%? You can cast them into earlier parts of the game. [sg-syndra]

Dr PoroSep 16, 20174 votes

Into earlier games as well. Guess who just reached Diamond in season one, bois.

Armored YokaiSep 16, 20174 votes

What the actual fuck. Veigar is unfun to lane against because of that ult PLEASE DO NOT BUFF IT MORE THAN IT ALREADY IS.

SkelenthSep 16, 20176 votes

Thats not his ult

Colton147Sep 15, 20172 votes

Nasus can have a 1 second Q, but Veigar pretty much can't have a 1 second W?

Hypocrisy at its finest.

notice me Sin piSep 15, 20174 votes

Nasus 1 sec Q only during highs, to be precise. Plus, he's a melee as well, unlike Veigar so it's pretty justified.

I Main SwainSep 15, 20171 votes

as someone who very much loves veigar (my first mid laner) i can agree that its entirely justified

BârdSep 15, 20176 votes

It's the wrong kind of change.

Veig is meant to be deleting people, but this encourages him to mindlessly spam.

MhihnjSep 16, 20172 votes

veigar in urf lol.

Solari FortuneSep 15, 20171 votes

Oh Vandiril tried this already just that when he did go to test it, it was bugged

Athenes LuluSep 15, 20171 votes

Except that was a tooltip error, because the CDR has a soft cap at around 90%.

Not too sure about the exact numbers, but it does sound pretty misleading.

CrazedPorcupineSep 15, 20171 votes

So, Quick calculation at how many stacks that Veigar needs to get to 100% CDR for his W is close to 10k stacks on his passive. NOW, to get to his W to under 2 seconds, at 40% CDR, you only need close to 600 stacks on his passive... OH WAIT, that's still insanely unfeasible. In most cases, this only reduces his W to about 3 seconds. even with 40% CDR.

Trap or a TrickSep 15, 20173 votes

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So, Quick calculation at how many stacks that Veigar needs to get to 100% CDR for his W is close to 10k stacks on his passive. NOW, to get to his W to under 2 seconds, at 40% CDR, you only need close to 600 stacks on his passive... OH WAIT, that's still insanely unfeasible. In most cases, this only reduces his W to about 3 seconds. even with 40% CDR.

close to 10k? sir, are you okay? it takes about 2.56k-3k stacks

deadlychuckSep 16, 20171 votes

I might be confused on how Veigar's stacking works now, but i'm pretty sure it's just 1 stack per champion hit or minion kill with Q.

But assuming it's still a full stack, why would he need a few thousand stacks to make this work?

Shouldn't he only need a few hundred stacks? 500 if he has no CDR. 50 x 10 = 500 : 50 x 6 = 300

mrgiraffeweevilSep 17, 20171 votes

The effect has some sort of multiplier each time you hit the cap needed for another 10%. You need like 2,500 stacks to get 100%, in which case Veig is probably 1 shotting anyways.

PrinceOfStormsSep 17, 20171 votes

It's multiplicative. 50 stacks reduces it to 90%, 100 reduces it to 81%, then 73%, then 67%, 61%, and so on.

deadlychuckSep 17, 20171 votes

It's multiplicative

Awe, ok. They should word it as "base cooldown by 10%", because it's one of very very few cases of non-additive CD in the game.

LadyRenlySep 17, 20171 votes

Veigars W is useless before like, 30 minutes anyway. I usually forego W in exchange for a couple early q level ups anyway. It won't change the fact that Veigar has to pray his team doesnt lose the game before he hits the 30 minute mark