Why are we continuing to pretend juggernauts are not a problem?

CURSEÐ REVENANT··2 votes·745 views

Tankiness, burst, and sustain. But they are "balanced."

They are inherently broken by their role alone.

Buff them, too op. Nerf them, not strong enough to do their job.

Something needs to be done about this.

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redniwediS5 votes

Honestly it's because no one knows what to do with them. They were balanced around the idea of not being mobile, but then mobility kept getting stronger.

If you've got ideas that would be great, but saying "something needs to be done" doesn't actually do anything.

CURSEÐ REVENANT1 votes

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Honestly it's because no one knows what to do with them. They were balanced around the idea of not being mobile, but then mobility kept getting stronger.

If you've got ideas that would be great, but saying "something needs to be done" doesn't actually do anything.

Stop giving tanks damage. That would be a quick solution.

redniwediS5 votes

That wouldn't help Juggernauts in the slightest. They typically have decent enough matchups with tanks. Where they fall short is when they have to lane against ranged opponents with CC, or when they are played on a team that has no initiation but needs initiation.

Tanks doing damage isn't a Juggernaut issue.

ValiantKiller2 votes

Cause any form of good adc with position or hard cc mage able to stop them. Anivia destroy Urgot due to her aoe slow ffrom her R. Illaoi get burst down by any form of burst mage including Veigar Zoe Syndra Darius easy to kit him with slow special if annoying safe adc or hard cc mage. Garen garen is special we all know how to stop him. DrMundo is liner champion that why they buffed them cause they don't want to rework his kit and he was counter by one item. Yorick in a bad spot. Etc

Warlord Rhinark2 votes

Stop crying just because you couldn't assassinate a Garen.

D357R0Y3R1 votes

burst

kek

CURSEÐ REVENANT1 votes

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Stop crying just because you couldn't assassinate a Garen.

How about you don't be toxic. Thanks pumpkin.

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Madsin251 votes

Exactly who are we talking about?

Mundo? He will get super nerfed trust me he is getting to much pro play.

Garen? He was overbuffed tbh.

Darius? I have no problems with him. Read nasus for the counter to him if you play AP.

Nasus? Phase rush erases him from existence. RIP if AD champ.

Skarner? Overbuffed stun duration which got him to see pro play. Not to big of a deal.

CURSEÐ REVENANT2 votes

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Exactly who are we talking about?

Mundo? He will get super nerfed trust me he is getting to much pro play.

Garen? He was overbuffed tbh.

Darius? I have no problems with him. Read nasus for the counter to him if you play AP.

Nasus? Phase rush erases him from existence. RIP if AD champ.

Skarner? Overbuffed stun duration which got him to see pro play. Not to big of a deal.

You kind of proved exactly my point. They are either overbuffed or overnerfed.

DW Diana1 votes

Personally I'm happy with it. Top lane can carry, bot lane can carry, midlane can carry if you play an assassin, top laner, adc. This is what people wanted, a snowball heavy 1v5 champion pool with anyone else being either a support or a troll pick. This does leave out 99% of midlaners and tank top laners but who cares right?

Alex h87211 votes

Also you forgot lack of relaible target selection/stickyness (which is why theyre trash when theyre over nerfed). I'd love to see a lot of jug's reworked to see them feel less bad to play as against ranged champs, and also less frustrating to play against as melee champs, bit more of a middleground.

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