jax nerfed and still got a 53% winrate

Scrai··19 votes·8,486 views

makes sense rework his stupid e or nerf him again

34 Comments

woodvsmurph12 votes

Jax is a hyperscaling champion who SHOULD have had some of his early laning power removed because he can get through laning phase too easily for someone that's supposed to be needing to scale. Instead they slightly nerfed his scaling. Which means he still gets through laning phase just as easily and reaches hypercarry status. Shaving off a couple points of his FREE damage late game means next-to-nothing. He still out-duels pretty much everyone he would out-duel before. He might need a whole extra aa on squishies to kill them... an extra 4 on tanks. But that's not going to ruin his day or cost him anything much in most cases.

It's like adding 0.1 armor scaling to malphite w at max rank. Sure it would affect his damage output somewhat, but he's still going to lose the matchups where he would lose, it won't affect his laning phase much if at all, and he will still be good at doing all the things he was useful for before without being significantly better at them that it likely changes the outcome of 99.999% of fights.

MrFawknSunshine7 votes

jax has been one if not the top tier TOP LANE champ for over a year.

shit i remember posting about jax having a 53% win rate over a year ago in Plat + elos

problem is he is nearly good vs anything. you are ranged ok i max Q we are melee ill max W i am in a bad match up early get E , just farm and scale. nearly every keystone works well with him, he can go tp or ignite has two passives, gets free defensive when he uses ult for getting damage.

too hard to build against, cant be in prolong fights vs him. typically too tanky to be burst down.

just imagine if he had a real fukin weapon

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Yeah jax top tier for over a year. Maybe in bronze.

S7 he was irrelevant as fuck. S8 he was irrelevant as fuck until conq and even then he wasn't near top tier . who cares about a scaling melee carry when you can pick urgot and just kill him. Or viktor. Or kennen. Or literally any champion that doesn'T walk into his counterstrike and die.

What ACTUALLY is a problem is essence reaver on him.

MrFawknSunshine2 votes

yet i clearly state IN PLAT + but some how in your gay fluffy unicorn mind come up with bronze

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Laura ß6 votes

If he's not strong in high elo riot doesn't give a shit

ChallengerTier11 votes

he is though, you mean competitive

AjXtar1 votes

He is stronger in high elo than in low elo. Not that it means much because he has crazy high play rate and win rate.

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

{quoted}

If he's not strong in high elo riot doesn't give a shit

Garen hehe Yorick haha

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

That's why riot literally nerfed jax for low elo? And said so themselves? Yeah.

Jax wouldn't have needed any nerf if it's about high elo.

ChallengerTier5 votes

nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax nerf jax

Atmosphere1 votes

N E R F S I NG E D

Ćount Kledula4 votes

item 3812 is probably the reason

ØrnnToGetTrolleÐ3 votes

Once again: Jax itself isn't the problem. No one cried about Jax's abilities before Runes Reforged.

Conqueror is the problem. Fervor of Battle was so much healthier.

AjXtar1 votes

In the jungle he takes PTA and has higher win rate there.

LordZeds2 votes

yea he is super strong i used to play him a lot and i can even step back and see his pretty strong most people who don't think he is are the ones who main him

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

More like people who don't trade into his counterstrike and die miserably because this is where all the boards complains come from.

Non top mains that complain that he can QE onto you and kill you which can feel shitty i admit that.

And bad players that get autofilled (shame on them if they actually main toplane) and trade into his counterstrike and die miserably and run on the boards to claim he has this super op laning phase when nearly every champion beats him.

Like shit i'Ve read comments here that he can QEW FOR FREE into darius during laning phase and just TRADE FOR FREE. I guarantee you any competent darius will murder his ass so hard if a jax is bad enough to QEW into him that by 10 minutes your inhib is down.

DoktorKaiser2 votes

Cough cough conqueror-breaks-the-game cough

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

It breaks the game so hard two champions actually pick it.

5 when they are against tanks.

Man how hard this rune breaks the game.

DoktorKaiser1 votes

Since it is only viable on bruisers and melee hyper carries of course only a few champs use it. The point is that every single champion that does use conqueror is extremely broken - Jax, Fiora, Irelia, Yi, Darius, Tryndamere, Yasuo all beyond retarded, especially with 2+ items.

PaffWasTaken1 votes

Hmm, they nerfed the late game damage of a bruiser who's a pure hyperscaling melee carry and it didn't have an impact?

What a freaking surprise wow, better delete the whole champ, unbalanceable smh /s

CppL1 votes

They nerfed his late game.Wich doesnt make any fucking sense cause there is no late game anymore.So yea that nerf was useless.Really ,irelias -5ms nerf was better than this shit.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

? They nerfed him because of low elo. That's why they nerfed his lategame because low elo will always have 30 mins+ shitfests.

Woodakoodashooda1 votes

He remains strong because Riot barely touched him. They nerfed the damage of every third auto on his ult slightly and only at ult ranks 2 and 3. He lost a grand total of 20 to 40 damage per third auto at those ranks.

His Q, W, and E were left untouched, his passive was left untouched, and his stats were left untouched.

His pick rate merely dropped a little because of it, but his win rate was barely dented at all.

Anatera1 votes

It's OK. It's Riot. It's totally acceptable for them and only them to announce nerfs that do nothing and features that achieve the exact opposite of their intended effect.

No one else can be allowed to have special treatment though. Riot is super special. They need it because they're a small indie developer. LUL.

Nevrankroaton1 votes

Dude, jax can have a lot of issue but I promise you his E is clearly NOT the big problem in his kit...

Pierce The Veal1 votes

{quoted}

makes sense rework his stupid e or nerf him again

That’s because 1) they didn’t nerf his early game or midgame

  1. what makes him really broken is essence reaver

  2. death’s dance now heals off his magic damage, so he now has a new great item for him.

Ask yourself this, if his ult passive was removed, would jax still be good with his current state? The answer is probably yes, because of triforce, sterak’s, titanic hydra, and most importantly, essence reaver.

He used to have issues with tanks, but now conqueror solves that issue for him.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Which is actually bullshit since a champion like jax should ABSOLUTELY NOT have problems with tanks. Just shows you how broken tanks actually were that jax can't beat them anymore.

A MELEE AA CARRY WITH SUSTAIN DMG CANNOT BEAT TANKS. What world are we living in like holy shit.

Thank god there is conq now. If we get rid of essence reaver jax is going to be fine again. Not conq.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

{quoted}

Which is actually bullshit since a champion like jax should ABSOLUTELY NOT have problems with tanks. Just shows you how broken tanks actually were that jax can't beat them anymore.

A MELEE AA CARRY WITH SUSTAIN DMG CANNOT BEAT TANKS. What world are we living in like holy shit.

Thank god there is conq now. If we get rid of essence reaver jax is going to be fine again. Not conq.

Well Riot doesn’t allow you to drain tank, doesn’t allow melees to have good damage itemization, and so they need to rely on a mishmash of broken items to somehow work or be broken. Remove/nerf those items and suddenly they are garbage.

Death by Glamour1 votes

But hashashin says hes balanced...

Scrai1 votes

only because he wins most of his games on him and is legit unskilled cant hit skill shots and plays jax...

tier 1 champs should be banned from high elo play

Summonah123691 votes

Just gut him up, and tear out his insides.

The Spiko1 votes

http://www7.0zz0.com/2018/12/11/18/474439731.png Nasus be like : riot did not gave a real buff since shurima was still exist

XxxLumberJackxxX1 votes

Um His E isn't his problem its his ultimate and passive making him a giant stat stick. runs

Naalith1 votes

The Riot Games special used to be hard nerf a champion, then nerf the item or rune they relied on, then they're trash. The new Riot Games special is wait literal months to years to "get data and not overreact" while a blatantly absurd character ruins the game, then finally give them a little tap on the wrist and call it good while the champion continues to ruin the game. Good times.

More from Gameplay

More by Scrai