29 Comments

Modnar Erom11/24/2019, 3:28:45 AM24 votes

The support items are trash for genuine support purposes: they give AP and AD (stats you want on carries not usually so important on supports - base values and poor ratios typically). In addition to that the 10% cdr and 50% mana regen (both very important stats for supports) are gone and can not be replaced without taking up an item slot and costing gold. Supports did not need more AP or AD.

The only tier 3 item that was worth upgrading was the relic shield for 10% cdr.

Fuhrer Usagi11/24/2019, 3:25:00 AM12 votes

Honestly. I think riot just don't care about any supports that aren't senna.

Modnar Erom11/24/2019, 3:43:49 PM11 votes

Yeah, let's do the same for jungle since it is so great. Give the jungle starter item its own quest and make it free. Of course, we will need to take away the insane mana regen it currently gives, and take away the built in healing, remove the CDR from warrior and runic echos, remove the splash proc from the AP item, and give them 10 more AP and AD to compensate.

And once the "quest" is complete jungle camps stop giving gold. Now before you complain, just think about the tremendous value you are getting from your "free" jungle item.

General Esdeath 11/24/2019, 3:20:28 AM10 votes

holy fucking shit that's terrible but I can't stop laughing at it

Chainman311/24/2019, 3:17:17 AM8 votes

You got a free item in the 40 min game. Which was essentially a 2k gold cost to you in the previous season. Which means in the 40 min game you got 12k gold worth of items whereas in the 29 min game you got 10k gold worth of items.

Worst JG Wins11/24/2019, 3:06:00 AM7 votes

Same gold earned

1 more full item

HMMMMM thinking

Yeah seems totally weak. Please revert RIOT

Modnar Erom11/24/2019, 2:55:20 AM7 votes

Another option is just to refuse to play support. I plan to queue top/mid and if autofilled support dodge until it gets fixed. Or I may just move on to something else, dealing with Riot's idiocy has become tiresome.

Modnar Erom11/24/2019, 3:09:45 AM6 votes

Well since it is fine with just assist gold, I guess we can reduce the gold on jungle camps to be 1/5th of laners' gold. That would still be 4x as much as supports :). What is good for the goose.....

Modnar Erom11/24/2019, 2:41:46 AM5 votes

Steal caddies. Late game caddies are worth 90g. Currently with the supp item you get 180g every 10 mins. With just 2 caddy steals you can double your gold income (of the next 10 mins) in 1 minute. If you take every caddy per wave you have increased your gold income by 10x.

Or another way to look at it is post 25 mins, Laners get 10x the supports "income" from caddies alone, 20x from full waves.

TobiaskJ11/24/2019, 11:29:02 PM4 votes

So

In other words, in late game, no matter how active you are as support, you get the same amount of gold as an AFK support sitting in base. (past the 15 min mark) wtf is this?