gives 80 ap, 20% cdr, 600 mana and the active all for 2800 gold. ludens givesm90 ap, same cdr, same mana and the passive all for 3200 gold. pros are starting to buy it because its much more gold efficient than ludens and much cheaper
Bulshlaka1 votesits definitely not sleeper it's one of the best items on a couple of mages ahri, veigar, swain, neeko are one of the main abusers of the item i've even seen brand use it to guarantee his combo pinkward was going either glp or protobelt on ap shaco as well
paired with GA it's busted if they ever decide to buff the active in some form it will be the best item in the game
Penta Penguin1 voteswho is buying Guardian Angel on a mage?
lilpokfluf1 votesHow do you not see the powerful synergy between GA and glp... so simple
Bulshlaka1 votesim pretty sure you are having a giggle but in the off chance you aren't GA also stands for Glacial Augment
Penta Penguin2 votesOh i've never seen anyoneo refer to glacial as GA, GA has been around longer and was always just GA
kilyan mbardppe1 votesthe thing is its not good just with glacial. bjergsen built it on syndra and he took eletrocute. they build it on ori too, talyah and other champions. the slow makes it easier to land the combo and they only lose 10 ap for it, while getting glp a lot earlier than the enemy gets ludens. another underrated part is the fact that glp also has easier components to build. revolver is double amp tome + 180 gold. blasting wand is 850 gold. ludens combine cost is lost chapter+ blasting+ 1050 gold, glp is lost chapter+revolver+ 450 gold.
they dont need to buff glp for it to be the best item in the game. if they nerf ludens glp will be the best item in the game
Xo GGEZ oX1 voteswelcome to 12 months ago..........
kilyan mbardppe1 votesim not talking about glacial augment, im talking in general. people are building it over ludens even without glacial augment, which a lot of people still arent doing and they should. thats why its hidden op. try it on syndra, talyah, orianna, sylas and see how much better it is. on sylas it makes it easier for you to land the second part of your q, which does the most dmg
Posui Gart1 votesIts already bought a lot together with Glacial rune. Ludens has overall more dps/waveclear still, so unless you can use the slow well and often, its not worth it
kilyan mbardppe1 votesyes but its really good even without glacial. try it on syndra, ori, talyah, sylas and see how much easier it is to land your combos. take normal runes, just swap ludens for glp. u will get it much earlier than the enemy gets ludens, your combos will be easier to land and the components are easier to build because they all build out of amp tome. glp is lost chapter+ revolver + 450gold. ludens is lost chapter+ blasting+ 1050 gold. its much easier to buy glp bit by bit than ludens where u need to save up 850 gold and then 1050.
Posui Gart1 votestry it on syndra, ori, talyah, sylas
3 unplayable champions with 0 range, and sylas who prefers protobelt anyway. If I somewhy want to pick support mid, i would rather go full support with glacial/glp/twinshadows
your combos will be easier to land
If you hit the slow, that is somehow blocked by everything.
its much easier to buy glp bit by bit than ludens where u need to save up 850 gold and then 1050.
If, for some reason, I have to recall so often I can't get 850 gold, the lane is probably lost anyway Also, with GLP you are sitting on a revolver that is basically a 1050 gold blasting wand.
kilyan mbardppe1 votessupport? the item literally gives 10 less ap than ludens, and the active does around the same damage.
Saezio1 votesIt's a magnificent item. But I wouldn't call it "sleeper"
Unless someone only judges by their soloq low elo games.
The fact that it's only 2800g is the main reason it's so valued in high elo. It let's you hit your cdr and 1 item powerspike with sorc boots sooner. And it let's you move to the next item sooner.
It's build path is also EXTREMELY convenient and paired with TP you just have complete control over when you back (Just buy a million amp tomes 4head!). The 
on the luden recipe means you NEED that 850g back timing and then you NEED to back with 1050 to complete.
Meanwhile GLP can be broken down to pretty much 500g steps.
Base components are just 
finish costs are all super low. 180 (I think) for revolver (with a nice trading passive). 80 for chapter. and just 450g for the entire item recipe.
kilyan mbardppe1 votesconsidering high elo is the minority of the player base i would say it is sleeper op. just look at a comment here saying that if you go glp mid it means ur a support. people dont realize how op it is
Saezio1 votesWell, first off, people can say whatever they want. I can say GLP is only good on ap wukong ADC.
Now, to my actual point. It doesn't mean you are a support in the sense the word "support" is used. But the term "support" itself is outdated (unless you want to refer to the position on the map, then it's pretty self explanatory) so I would rather stir away from using it.
A better word to describe mids that use GLP the most efficiently would be "facilitator" in my opinion. Most of the time they are not the main carry in their team, and they serve to facilitate kills in the early and mid game. A veigar mid with glp and Glacial Augment for example is a great champion to facilitate kills whenever your jungler comes to gank. You auto to slow, then you have a much better chance to hit your E, and this way you don't really need your jungler to have hard easy CC, they don't need to be a J4/amumu/(whatever heavy ganker you like) they can also be a more carry oriented jungler and your team won't lack in the CC department.
And when the teamfight phase comes you take the role of the one that zones away from baron/drakes or you make the teamfight a lot more easily maneuvreable for your top and adc that will have more carry oriented champions than you.(if you drafted correctly)
So, I wouldn't say Glacial+GLP makes you a support, but it changes your teamfight role from someone that needs to access the enemy backline and delete people to someone that makes it easier for the rest of your team to play the game. (of course if push comes to shove or if you get a clear cut opportunity you can still go in for the kill because your damage is not that lacking)
Now maybe I am 100% wrong and some high elo person can correct me. But these are my takings on the Glacial+glp approach.
kilyan mbardppe1 votesthe thing is look at tsm's game vs clg. bjergsen went glp on syndra without glacial. he did it for the exact reason i mentioned. you hit the slow and u have an easier stun. the item slows without glacial anyway and it is much better in skirmishes and teamfights. literally, all people have to do is try out a game where instead of ludens they take glp and see how it is. same runes, same everything else, just swap ludens for glp and it will feel much better
ProphetOfDraven1 votesI really like GLP on Sylas, but unfortunately I can't go protobelt and GLP, kinda stupid.
kilyan mbardppe1 votessylas does so much dmg rn i would even advise you to try out glp + glacial augment. the lack of eletrocute will be compensated by the fact u will be landing ur q2 much more ofter. u also get access to free stopwatch and cosmic insight or approach velocity, both viable. then u can also cheese out with ingenious hunter and have a super short zhonyas cd. with perfect timing, cosmic insight and ingenious hunter zhonyas has a 55 sec cd and glp has like a 20 sec cd. pretty nice
ProphetOfDraven1 votesGlacial is a lot worse than conqueror though at all stages of the games, and tbh I never had a problem hitting my abilities on Sylas. Precision tree and the base damage gained from conqueror and healing from conq and ravenous hunter are the main thing I see propping Sylas up. When you are a great user ( AP and he stacks it fast ) of the best rune in the game with the best tree in the game, I see no reason to give it up.