Graves or Fiora can't decide plz answer me

Peace Is Life··3 votes·823 views

Hi everyone I have 3368 IP and I can't decide between Fiora and Graves. I habitually play mid, but i have too much mid champions, I also play top, jungle and ADC. After all, I play all positions except support. Who do you advice me to buy and why. Also my runes are not completed even if I'm lvl 30 and probably bronze2, do you advice me to complete them before?

Thank you

26 Comments

Tychusfindlay9192 votes

Graves is broken as hell right now and lower league players don't seem to be banning him all that much. You can take advantage of that if you learn to play graves correctly. Of course, this is a window, since riot is inevitably going to nerf Maw and probably graves himself directly.

Peace Is Life1 votes

Yea, I hope we'd not be nerfed or I'll choose Azi, he's also OP right now.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

Graves.

He can go to any lane and be effective.

Peace Is Life1 votes

He can go mid and supp?

Hardstuck G41 votes

He was played mid in semi-pro play and dominated, so yeah, I guess for one of those it's the case xD

Peace Is Life1 votes

Graves played Mid-lane new meta?

Astral Zephyroro1 votes

Runes first and foremost if your wanting the easiest experience. Playing a champ with the wrong runes/no runes will let you get a better understanding of what they do and how much damage they do. But if your already playing with ranked then definitely runes first. I suggest at the lowest at least 3 pages, one for generic AD, AP, and Jungle. You never really realize how much the right runes helps especially early game in the jungle.

Peace Is Life1 votes

yea but I play a lot of my games without runes and can easily win them or carry, plus it gives a little advantage no?

lilgabz1 votes

you can get 10% free cdr viably just off of the rune page and more, so id say. they give a BIG advantage

Peace Is Life1 votes

Really? I didn't knew that!!!

Astral Zephyroro1 votes

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yea but I play a lot of my games without runes and can easily win them or carry, plus it gives a little advantage no?

When you get a bit higher up the rankings the small advantage they bring are mandatory, granted im only gold so im only mediocre and cannot speak from experience but when you have someone who knows how to push every little advantage against you, you will see just how useful the correct runes are. Granted if your not focusing on runes then you can gain some serious knowledge on what your champ can do. Its really just a what do you prefer situation.

Peace Is Life1 votes

Yea, I understand your reflexion and it's smart I think I'll buy a champion and start fast my runes

Thank you very much

lilgabz1 votes

I'd go graves, fiora is in a pretty bad spot right now imo. graves scales well all the way through the game. However i noticed, even if you get a couple kills early with fiora, you will lose it by lvl 11 and become too squishy, and if you build tank items you will do 0 dmg. so id say go graves...

Peace Is Life1 votes

Ok thank you I'll go Graves

lilgabz1 votes

Np friend :)

Jasęn1 votes

get graves. then complete your runes. ad reds armor yellows mr blues ad quints and you'll have everything you need for most ad champs.

Peace Is Life1 votes

That's what i'll do I think

Jbels1 votes

Can you deal with loathing from the other team? Go Fiora, can you deal with Self-loathing? Go Graves

Peace Is Life1 votes

Waht is loathing? and self-loathing plz

Thank you

Jasęn1 votes

basically the loathing is when people hate you, and self-loathing is when you hate your self. graves gives you a feeling of happiness over finally having someone that shits on renekton and fiora top lane.

Peace Is Life1 votes

Oh ok but the only time you hate yourself it's when you're feeding XD

Athenes Lulu1 votes

If you need more toplaners, go Fiora.

If you need more ADCs, go Graves.

Though if you want to pick the more OP one (because we all want to win, right?), go Graves.

AlwaysByMySide1 votes

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If you need more toplaners, go Fiora.

If you need more ADCs, go Graves.

Though if you want to pick the more OP one (because we all want to win, right?), go Graves.

Graves is a better top laner than Fiora right now.

He can also jungle, ADC, and apparently mid.

He is better than Fiora at the one place she can go and can also go to several other lanes.

The answer should be obvious. Play Graves.

Peace Is Life1 votes

Yea and Graves can go nowhere that's a good advantage

Wînter Fox1 votes

Gameplay got Fiora nerfed into irrelevance and she still has a higher ban rate than Graves. The choice is obvious

Peace Is Life1 votes

Yeah it's obvious I think I,ll buy graves but i'm hesitating too I don't want to buy a champion ( it's 4800 you can't hav this each day ;D) and say '' OH NO why do I bought this champion the other is really better!'' But thank you for answering!

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