AP KAI'SA works?

IamHereToTroll··4 votes·2,066 views

Her skills scales with Ability Power as well as Attack Damage. I tried to do a hybrid build to see it's power. On this video I could be able to Solo Baron with AP KAI'SA build on lvl 15. His Q skill damage is insane. I wonder if anybody tried this on a normal or ranked game? Please give me feedback if you find it OP! Kaisa

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InTheory2 votes

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

AP Kai'Sa is even intended to work

2Charmnot2Charm2 votes

item 3146 3400g item 3115 3000g item 3812 3500g item 3151 3100g item 3116 2600g item 1416 2625g =18225g

Do you see the problem yet?

SwiftKitten883 votes

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item 3146 3400g item 3115 3000g item 3812 3500g item 3151 3100g item 3116 2600g item 1416 2625g =18225g

Do you see the problem yet?

that was also a 21 min baron when she had that build... not even in its "final form"

so yeah... i agree AP kai'sa w is stupid strong.. but this video is nonsense

Ahristocats2 votes

it does

but if you go ap you go ap you dond't build ad items

MorganFreemanBot1 votes

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it does

but if you go ap you go ap you dond't build ad items

She's meant to be a hybrid champion, wanting a mixture of both AP and AD in every build she does.

Ahristocats2 votes

then you're doomed to lose, by building all the expensive items in the game

MorganFreemanBot1 votes

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then you're doomed to lose, by building all the expensive items in the game

It's more like she can benefit from everything.

Like, say, the AD on a gunblade isn't wasted on her if she's building AP and vice versa, similar things with rage blade.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

A legitimately garbage looking build.

Why death’s dance? Why not guinsoo’s rageblade?

Why rylai’s?

Why liandries?

The only good parts of that build are the gunblade and nashor’s tooth!

Lich bane Deathcap gunblade nashors guinsoo’s is pretty much the build you have to go.

Perhaps you can substitute the lich bane, probably with, say, a triforce to top off the AD in exchange for movespeed, attack speed, and mobility, but overall that’s the build to go if you want to be AP, and it’s an expensive as hell build.

Skelenth1 votes

Gunblade and Guinsoos don't sum up enough for her Q upgrade, which means you lose out on a big chunk of your AP scalings. Isolated Q has a better AP scaling than W

Pierce The Veal1 votes

With the upcoming changes guinsoo’s will give 24% bonus AD, and with an infernal drake or whatever she will have enough. Early game she can just toss on a long sword or a cull or something to complete the 100 AD requirement. Or even better, a 500 gold pot that she can pop before a close range fight to upgrade her Q:

There is no good reason to buy a whole item.

Her AP W is her Raison raison d'être. It procs her passive three times, giving it MUCH more scaling than it officially has, and much more overall damage. With that being on a ~4 second cooldown at max rank with max cdr, she is better off using the rest of her kit as a finisher when going AP.

There’s just no reason to justify buying death’s dance in particular. She doesn’t deal much physical damage at all. If you must build an attack damage item, get a triforce or a guardian angel. Both will benefit her significantly.

Skelenth2 votes

Except she only gets the upgrades from permanent item stats and level ups, so no dragons, adaptive runes or pots

lolipopevelynn1 votes

ur full build at 21 mins because you gave urself free gold. that will NEVER happen in a real game.

AlienPrimate1 votes

You should try this again either with 45 minutes on the clock instead of 20 or 2 completed items instead of 6. The result will be way different.

nm10101 votes

The best build in my experience is rageblade, gunblade, ad item (preferably bork), full ap. You get significant attack speed, access to your upgraded q for waveclear, and then all of the ap (the stat she scales best with imo). You'll get 25%+ execute damage on passive, plenty of attack speed to function as a consistent damage carry, w and q hit like a truck, and you have a lot of the utility ap items to choose from like item 3157 item 3116 item 3102 item 3135 etc.

YuGiHo1 votes

Kaisa's ap ratios are actualy trash compared to ad. Her w the thing that gets an ap upgrade has an ok ap ratio for a ap poke mage but when u bulid ad raw ad it does so much mor damage. even her ult had an increasing ad ratio as u put points into it but the ap ratio is so bad.

Luminev1 votes

Yea it is, but that build did not do it any favors [sg-ahri-3] item 3285 item 3146 item 3020 item 3100 item 3135 item 3089 Now that's a real ap Kai'sa build. Land one q and watch half their health go boom. Get the cd reset through another. STILL NOT DEAD? Ult, Gunblade, Q. [slayer-pantheon-rainbows]

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