The problem with "OP Tanks" is Sunfire Cape and Iceborn Gauntlet, not the tanks themselves.

Ruasa··3 votes·6,629 views

Riot needs to stop nerfing tanks or champions who can build "tanky" and still do damage. The problem isn't the champion, but the tank items themselves. They went in the correct direction with the nerf to Titanic Hydra, but items such as Deadman's Plate, Sunfire Cape, and Iceborn Gauntlet still need to be checked out. These items are what is making the tanks "OP" and nerfing these items will put the tanks in a more balanced spot. e.g. Ekko does NOT need a nerf.

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Feed Daddy3 votes

Gauntlet is a pretty shitty defensive item and an OK damage item.

Sun fire cape damage is a joke.

Your thread is dumb af

Critmaster Garen1 votes

sunfire cape is really only noticable on ap tanks with magic pen runes and abyssal, when they happen to fight a squishy without mr.

this is the only nieche scenario. otherwise its basically a waveclear item.

and since item 3139 item 3156 and item 3001 or item 3174 are build on most adc, ad assassins, mages or ap assassins, encountering a squishy without mr items is usually not happening right now.

Gronlok1 votes

how long does it take to kill a tank as one of those champions 1v1? lets say 10 seconds, which is a low-ball for sure. you're going to eat about 1/4 of your life just from the item...

Ludens Echo doesn't even put out that much damage to a single target.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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how long does it take to kill a tank as one of those champions 1v1? lets say 10 seconds, which is a low-ball for sure. you're going to eat about 1/4 of your life just from the item...

Ludens Echo doesn't even put out that much damage to a single target.

after mr its considerably less damage from that thing.

Man In Sky1 votes

Please tell me you're trolling lol

Critmaster Garen1 votes

also, iceborn gauntlet is a really weak defensive item. the sheen proc isnt that great either compared to triforce. its usually just a utility item for tanks and bruisers to get some extra sticking power and cdr.

unless its outright abused by blue ezreal.

Gronlok1 votes

Tanks getting wave-clear and extra damage WHILE acquiring efficient tank stats is the problem.

When Nautilus and Malphite are able to split push faster than damage-oriented Top laners there is a problem.

As you stated... Gauntlet isn't the best defensive item, as it gives a good chunk of armor but zero health. The active damage in conjunction with the CDR give tank champions TOO MUCH utility. It solves their mana issues, it gives a massive 20% CDR and it gives you a slow and extra damage.... so much utility for a relatively cost-efficient item.

Sunfire Cape however is a very strong item. You have to remember that the damage is PER SECOND. so if cape is doing 20 dps, and you are in a teamfight, if you are around 2 people for 10 seconds you just did 400 damage... just for being alive.

Too much free damage at such an inexpensive price-tag. It takes damage carries so long to be able to respond with meaningful damage.

Iceborn Gauntlet and Sunfire Cape cost 2700 gold

Lord Dominik's Regards costs 2700 but sucks if you're not attacking a tank Black Cleaver 3500

and thats about it for shred options... dont get me started on why the executioner's calling version is so pathetic.

Either bring back the old Last Whisper, or nerf the damage output of tank items.

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