FORFEIT, QUITTING, LOSING GAMES

7025863629·7/16/2016, 1:03:30 PM·2 votes·2,215 views

PLEASE FIX THE FORFEIT BUTTON. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE THAT PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE TO GIVE UP FROM A GAME BECAUSE THEY THINK IT IS TO HARD OR UNWINNABLE. How many times have people clicked that quit button, failed to get all players to quit and come back and win the game? It happens a lot. As you know LOL, from your code, Negative attitudes effect players, let alone effect them greater then a positive attitude. Do you know how many games must have been forfeited that the losing team may have come back from and won... A LOT! It is not fair to have people quit games because it isnt easy, going their way, or it gets difficult because they are behind. It may be necessary for a forfeit button, I grant you that, BUT AT LEAST ALLOW EVERY PLAYER TO MAKE THE DECISION TO QUIT. IT SHOULD BE A 100% VOTE. As long as one player believes the team should win. They should not get a loss due to a forfeit. Please change this!

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Ba22crow7/16/2016, 1:36:37 PM2 votes

It's a complicated situation. If they switch it to require 100% participation how long until we get video of a ranked match where the winning team Is ahead 70-3 and is refusing to finish to pad their KDA's and the losing team can't forfeit because of one player trying to punish the others for his perception that they lost him the game?

That would cause far more bad publicity than 1 angry player now and then because the rest of the team gives up as easily as a one legged dog trying to chase a car.

That's not to say I'm happy about it. I've won the majority of games my team tried to give up on and me and a friend forced them to stick it out. But Iv'e lost enough ranked games where we surrendered just a few kills behind because people have no desire to earn their victory, they just want to stomp, that I think something does need to be done about it. But requiring a 5 man vote is too much, maybe introducing some other parameters, like requiring one team have at least 20 kills and twice as many kills as the other team to allow a 4 man surrender also after the 20 minute mark.

Hyrum Graff7/16/2016, 1:39:14 PM1 votes

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PLEASE FIX THE FORFEIT BUTTON. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE THAT PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE TO GIVE UP FROM A GAME BECAUSE THEY THINK IT IS TO HARD OR UNWINNABLE.

Why not? It requires a 4/5 majority. If you never want to surrender, that means a surrender vote can't pass unless literally every one of your teammates wants to surrender. In my experience as someone who almost never surrenders in Ranked (2 games out of maybe 400), this happens very, very infrequently.

How many times have people clicked that quit button, failed to get all players to quit and come back and win the game? It happens a lot.

But in those games, the losing team didn't surrender. 2+ people thought the game was winnable, and it was. Working as intended.

As you know LOL, from your code, Negative attitudes effect players, let alone effect them greater then a positive attitude. Do you know how many games must have been forfeited that the losing team may have come back from and won... A LOT!

This would actually be really interesting to see. You could look at games with a surrender vote that passes and measure how far behind the losing team was at that point. Then compare that to games where the losing team is the same amount behind and didn't surrender, and see how often the losing team makes a comeback.

It is not fair to have people quit games because it isnt easy, going their way, or it gets difficult because they are behind. It may be necessary for a forfeit button, I grant you that, BUT AT LEAST ALLOW EVERY PLAYER TO MAKE THE DECISION TO QUIT. IT SHOULD BE A 100% VOTE. As long as one player believes the team should win. They should not get a loss due to a forfeit. Please change this!

Maybe it's not fair to the one player, but what about the other 4 players? Would it be fair to them to force them to play through a game where they are getting stomped, that seems unwinnable, just because one player is too blind to see or too stubborn to admit that the game is over?

Mdluli7/16/2016, 1:49:43 PM1 votes

You're absolutely right! At the very least, they should do this for ranked games because people play ranked more to compete than for casual fun.

Aids cuz League7/16/2016, 2:54:20 PM1 votes

I think the surrender system is fine as it is, as its a majority rules system. No problems at all with it, no sir, not at all

*Tried to forfeit a game recently due to a feeder who was also trolling, 3 yes 0 no, surrender didn't go through

P.S. this game has so much bs