ADs have too much access to CDR.

Blumpkin Nation··1 votes·482 views

edit: title meant to ready "ADs have too much access to CDR" not AD. That would be just stupid.

Whether it is from the actual AD items or the 'tank' items that every fighter, juggernaut, tank, or whatever buy it's become a problem. AP's have had naturally high cool downs because they had access to more cool down.

With Riot making item and their mother item having CD it's really become a problem for game health when it comes to AD vs AP. AP's rely on their abilities. AD's rely on their abilities and basics for follow up.

So please explain to me why it is okay for someone like Wukong to max CDR with EVERY item benefitting him better than I could as Zyra.

Example being: Oh shit, the enemy has a lot of damage/poke. Wukong builds BC (why not, he can stealth and initiate and pretty kill anyone because of his ult+BC), then Spirit Visage (because this item is literally the best defensive MR item in the game), and then close out your tank build with Warmogs.

What do I have? Oh, they're building defensive. Great, I'll do no damage unless I build enough CDR to constantly poke them or rush Void Staff. But wait, I can only really build Morello for an instant 20% which has a passive that is useless to me unlike BC which is perfect for anyone who deals physical damage on abilities.

I can choose to get abyssal, but that isn't saving me from the AD Damage Wukong provides. I can buy Rod of Ages, but I won't have resistances or cdr. I can get Zhonyas, but the AP is horrible now and the cool down is longer (so extremely situational buy now) and the armor gets negated by the BC anyway.

So what options do I have as an AP against someone who has universal choices?

Far as I see it, the AP builds are much more balanced because you actually have to choose what is beneficial for yourself or your team. There are literally no bad AD choices.

In closing: Please remove ALL CDR from offensive items AD's can buy and leave it on the defensive items. Or remove it from the defensive items. Why does Spirit Visage need to build out of kindlegem when it could build out of giant's belt and provide less AP and more health? I don't understand the item balance in this game but I certainly feel gilted by playing AP.

6 Comments

GULAG 4 U1 votes

ads can't get ad items now?

Blumpkin Nation1 votes

No, they should have very limited access to CDR. They shouldn't be able to max it without sacrificing other things in their build. You rarely see anyone going without one defensive item who is a fighter/diver type. It just doesn't make sense to give them more options at CDR than APs. I'm not saying anyone should be able to buy 2 items and max CDR like in season 5, but still. Holy crap, the decisions I need to make as an AP whereas all the ADs are just given it in everything like candy.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

That's not quite true.

khorney2 votes

Let's see black cleaver has a high cost ...... umm ap for best cdr is frost queens claim and Moro...... 30% right there and your not sacrificing anything . Not to mention abyssal and hourglass both now have 10% cdr

ChaddyFantome1 votes

this is ridiculous there is far more ap in the game and far less MR in the game, and thus damage potential from AP than AD.

Swarmer1 votes

As i was smurfing, i started playing ad top/jungle a lot, because i want to play roles i play least, and not, they dont benefit way more, for example, as ahri, i can just spam my q e all day long with 40% cdr and deal wih 1q 50% hp damage toadc/midlane, while with those champs i have to run straight in enemy team. As apc you can just poke them from safe distance.

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