Move Mordekaiser's shield to his Health Bar

Metalian·Jun 3, 2015·74 votes·2,711 views

League has had the tech for decaying shields in the health bar for years now, but Morde's shield is still in the resource bar, and for no better reason than "it's always been that way". His shield isn't a resource. Not only is it confusing for newcomers to the game, it's annoying and deceptive to any player, because you need to click on him and look at the upper left to see how strong his shield is. Sure, this takes a second at most, but it's a second longer than it takes to check any other shield in the game. Why?

Just put his shield in the health bar like every other champion in the game already.

24 Comments

Xx420n0sc0p3sxXJun 3, 201512 votes

It has bars just like your hp bar, each indicates 100 hp. I personally like it on his resource bar, but that's just my opinion.

MetalianJun 3, 20152 votes

It's harder to read at a glance, I think, and it's not like people who are used to playing against Morde are going to to have a hard time adjusting to it once it works like every other shield in the game.

WarlockLawJun 3, 20159 votes

The thing is that his shield has a cap to it, so having it on his resource bar is actually for clarity on how much more shield he can get if he casts his spells. That is why it has been on his resource bar for so long

MetalianJun 3, 20151 votes

I get what you're saying. The current set-up as strategic clarity, since you can always out and out read what his maximum shield amount is. I think the tactical clarity of having his health bar immediately fill up with shield health is more significant, though, if you're in a tight engagement.

Sir FuzziJun 4, 20151 votes

Could also add a clear graphic for the shield like Yasuo's. y/n?

I think it's nice in his resource bar and it'd feel weird if it were both there and in his health bar, or just in his health bar. I feel like a clear graphic would be the happy medium, would not horribly detract from the image and would fall more in line with modern clarity principles.

The resource bar depicting its amount is a bit more in line with it as a mechanic-- it's not a conventional shield and it comprises a lot of Mordekaiser's identity. Whitewashing it like a normal shield feels... a bit like it's jilting him of identity.

Alternatively find a way to make the resource bar clearer at a glance?

I think you should edit your OP to contain the note about an isolation indicator for his Q, too. That one is definitely big and that one should definitely be above even the shield changes, in my opinion.

The LexerJun 4, 20153 votes

Put it on both

TerchioJun 4, 20151 votes

That might be helpful in ways, but Bloodthirster works in a similar fashion, and I don't hear calls to make max clarity on that shield. I can see the help of this clarity generally, but I feel that comes at the cost of enemy clarity. It would be better yet if both those shields had some type of extended HP bar for shield which never shifted in size to allow to user to know max HP + Shield, instead of shapeshifting at every loss of shield.

Critmaster GarenJun 3, 20155 votes

hmm, this seems like a pretty good idea for clarity. at least it shows more accurately how much shielding he has relative to the rest of his health.

having 100% on his resource bar at level 1 is vastly different from having 100% at lvl 18.

AkesgerothJun 4, 20154 votes

Actually, it's better on the resource bar to help you see its cap, which is a fairly important aspect of Morde's shield mechanic

Jungle Lux GodJun 3, 20152 votes

His shield isn't a resource, but it's important enough to Mordekaiser's kit that it should be considered as one.

League of Legends has quite a few champions with shields, but no other champion has nearly as much reliance on his shield than Mordekaiser, and it needs to stand out more with him.

With the way other shields work, you cannot immediately look at it and estimate how much health they have in their shield. With Mordekaiser's, you can estimate within tens of the actual amount of health he has, and you need to know that estimate, if not the actual amount, throughout the entire game.

Likewise, you can afford to click on Mordekaiser and look at the top left to see how strong his shield is, but you cannot afford to click on him and look for the buff that says how much shield he has, and that is what Mordekaiser would end up being if he gets his shield as a portion of his health bar instead of his resource bar.

The shield could definitely be more intuitive for new players, but changing it to being a shield in the health bar isn't the way to do it.

GhostOfShrimpmasJun 3, 20152 votes

He also still needs an isolation indicator for his Q, just like Kha'Zix has.

MasterVidallisJun 4, 20152 votes

This is a good example of a post about a non issue when there are so many actual issues to discuss : /

Chaotic ReksJun 3, 20151 votes

and than we give him buffs

MetalianJun 3, 20151 votes

Sure. I don't think Morde is OP at the moment, but the shield thing really bugs me.

AbodyHUN666Jun 3, 20151 votes

*rework

DurzakaJun 3, 20151 votes

IS there any decaying shields besides Morde?

All the shields I know of stay at full strength until the timer runs out or they are hit.

MetalianJun 3, 20151 votes

Bloodthirster's shield decays.

DurzakaJun 3, 20151 votes

And so it does. Ok.

RisenDarkKnightJun 3, 20151 votes

Also the inner tower shields decay rapidly when you walk away

SnowStriderJun 3, 20151 votes

Mordekasier es numero uno en Brazil (huehuehue) Shield es de best

M0RDEKA1SERJun 3, 20151 votes

I want to say there was something to do with how it interacts with damage mitigation as well. If it worked like a regular shield, his armor and magic resist would be affected differently. As is, his shield is effectively just more health, and not actually a shield at all. I could be wrong though.