anyone know how pick order is determined in champ select in 5v5 norms/ranked?

Oolalaboom··1 votes·1,462 views

some people were telling me that it was based off who clicks the "accept" button first but i tested that by clicking first immediately and clicking last and it still seems random? is it purely random? or based off mmr/rank? (i know there was a post or two from years ago but it was never really confirmed)

thanks for your time :)

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LordRedStone Nr11 votes

I guess it's based on the matchmaking algorithm, because there will be some kind of queue including all players and the ones matched together. It would be easy to just take the order that the matchmaker picks and use that for champselect.

So there surely are ways to influence it (there must be, unless it it totally random, and even the it would be pseudo-random) but since we have no idea how that algorithm works (it's probably parallel, so even more unpredictable), you can say it's basically random.

What I did notice however is that the order is the same or close when just one player dodges and the system finds a replacement (usually very fast and 9 out of 10 players are the same). This just proves there is some kind of logic involved, but it doesn't tell you how to influence it.

1 Inch and Proud1 votes

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I guess it's based on the matchmaking algorithm, because there will be some kind of queue including all players and the ones matched together. It would be easy to just take the order that the matchmaker picks and use that for champselect.

So there surely are ways to influence it (there must be, unless it it totally random, and even the it would be pseudo-random) but since we have no idea how that algorithm works (it's probably parallel, so even more unpredictable), you can say it's basically random.

What I did notice however is that the order is the same or close when just one player dodges and the system finds a replacement (usually very fast and 9 out of 10 players are the same). This just proves there is some kind of logic involved, but it doesn't tell you how to influence it.

i agree with the que. if there say is a person in que for 2 minutes and i click play and match immediately. id find myself to be last pick. atleast thats what it feels like

Darkdemon6531 votes

It's random or at least random enough to the point where there's no way to manipulate it.

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