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Nidalee is too dominant.

DirtBag P·8/6/2014, 5:58:10 AM·3 votes·773 views

Every game she is either picked or banned, and can just stomp anyone in the top lane. Like, just runs in and out of bushes, AA'ing her enemy and has free flash every few seconds, that also gets reduced by killing minions. At least with the old Nidalee, she was able to get obliterated in lane, and you had to wait till late game to become a huge impact on the game. Now she just kills you over and over again, untill you end up raging. She can dive anyone and get out safely with the stupid pounce. Then she got a BUFF on her pounce after the rework(which was a horrible choice).

What I think would make her viable, yet not strong enough to just topple over every other top laner.

Give her back her old passive, where she only gains movespeed in the bush Make her pounce the same cooldown as Corki's Valkyrie(without the passive to make it shorter), she is not a carry, she should not be safer than one. Stop making spammable %health abilites, they are broken.(That just goes for all champs.) and reduce the base heal. (Hard enough to trade with her as it is)

My personal opinion on her. As you can probably tell, I hate this champ :/ Off to the rift.

12 Comments

Maoster1018/6/2014, 9:09:10 AM2 votes

lol, nidalees safetly is worse than lucians, she is supposed to be a hybrid melee she should be getting MORE safetly than any ADC in the game. nidalee is in a odd place still, she isnt a carry, she is barely a passable bruiser with 0 CC and her ranged poke is not what it used to be. her traps are really bad as minions trigger them or easily avoided since they have to be out of minion path and her pounce is worse as a escape than it used to be. she gets completely wrecked vs ham tops with a gap closer, who can literally stand in her wave, and jump her if she comes close. irelia, jax, all dump on her, the AD assassins stomp her face in, even a well played riven stomps her. learn to play against her and she is easy. your arguement is like. OMG TEEMO OP FREE GHOST EVERY 10 SECONDS, OMG KENENE OP FREE GHOST EVERY 10SECNODS AND HE AUTO ATKS ME THEN STUNS ME WAAAAA.

Knight SoIaire 8/6/2014, 8:49:26 AM2 votes

with thread title i agree riot remade nidaele from overpowered jayce state into overpowered elise state

still from one overly toxic gameplay pattern to other overly toxic gameplay pattern

easy fix remove ad ratio from takedown she will start to build ap and will rely on the playstyle, of poking with a spear to quicky pounce in and kill the guy atm nidaele gets insane magic dmg from building ad which removes counterplay also anshes nerf is a big buff to her

ppl never had problem with the range of her spears, only with the fact that one spear was enough to win a teamfight and nidaele could toss 1k of them before going oom

her autoatacks will always give her upper hand in top lane, but the early takedown should take a hit

Angry Monster8/6/2014, 9:03:08 AM1 votes

What do want? Riot is nerfing anyone but nid at this point. They hit grag, now they are going after mao. I do not understand how they can keep hitting everyone that has a terrible early game but can do something late. Nid has a great early game and split pishees all day.

Way more boring to deal with than melee CC control champs.

Justin12M8/6/2014, 9:23:55 AM1 votes

im just saying i got a kill came back to lane and she raped my face off 3 skills nuke my health bar at full with less mionion kills and i had mr and and yes she but she hops under turret kills me with her having half health and when i have a half bar by the time turret hits her she hopes out and she get the she should get a bonus off minions just saying

Worgslarg8/6/2014, 12:03:16 PM1 votes

My personal problem with her, is that AD( triforce + 1 ad item) nid is the assassin playstyle, and ap nid is the more sustained damage.

The two should be swapped. Takedown now has amazingly high ap ratios, but much lower AD ratios( retaining its execute damage), with AD ratios added to pounce and swipe and their ap scalings nerfed.

Her heal is a bit of an oddball and doesnt fit well with AP or AD nid.

Add say a 3-5% reduction on her overall damage, and she's balanced imo.

Also, you want to counter nid in lane?

Pantheon, fizz, kat, zed.- these are all the counters i have found while playing nid. It's a heavily snowballed lane. if nid gets first blood in the lane, she will get fed. if she does not, she usually feeds to hell.

She cant fight pantheons stun, and fizz, kat, and zed all have a much better gapclose and burst, that is nonreliant on the hunt for damage.

The thing to realize when your playing her is that AD nid has the auto poke and a non ap increased heal, with assassin levels of damage.

The one other thing is that she's around a 18% overall pick rate. and a 20% ban rate. that is hardly every game.

Sean Nguyen8/6/2014, 7:06:41 AM1 votes

She can build Gauntlet and maybe BOTRK then build tanky for the rest of the game and still kill squishies 2-3 shots...

Justin12M8/18/2014, 7:21:40 AM1 votes

ok well im pretty sure that you cant just ignore her cuz with a doran blade she does the same damage as me and i play 500 game with attrox you cant get around the fact that she does 250 damage lvl 2 so

12tales8/6/2014, 7:10:11 AM1 votes

Make her pounce the same cooldown as Corki's Valkyrie(without the passive to make it shorter), she is not a carry, she should not be safer than one.

Not certain I follow your reasoning. Nidalee isn't a carry, so she shouldn't have other strengths to make up for it? Like, 'Shyvana isn't a carry, she shouldn't be tankier than one,' 'Warwick isn't a carry, he shouldn't heal faster than one,' 'Leona isn't a carry, she shouldn't have more CC than one' - doesn't really make much sense.