You're tweaking Ryze?

AceGeo··2 votes·366 views

Although I main Ryze, I admit I'm only Gold. I know it would make him more op in his current state, but you could shift power from his Q to his E. Then you could play around with nerfing his Q a bit. I'd love to see his Q be more of a, "This is my final setup" rather than a, "This ability unleashes my damage" type of ability. Almost like utility ability but not literally utility. And I'm talking about how his Q is the ability that either #1 Gives him a shield and a speed boost, or #2 unleashes a wave of damage onto his E stacks. I think it's really fun how the same abilities have a different effect in a different order. That's something really fun and unique and that's why I like him the most/ main him. Try not to change him too much if you can. As much as I absolutely L O V E his ultimate, I understand you could adjust or change it.. but then I'd be sad. Even something like a speed boost after you and your teammates leave the portal zone (get teleported) could help raise his winrate.

EDIT: A big problem for new players is getting his E to work properly and they don't understand how to use it in team fights effectively. Maybe not increasing the range on it, but maybe a small and short speed boost after using it? You could shift the boost from his combo onto his base ability, but then make it smaller.

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Foxynth1 votes

Just wait for the next rework! At the rate of all the Ryze reworks, another one should be in the making faster than FNAF productions in their first year or two of sales.

AceGeo1 votes

They said they don't want to rework him. He's a cool niche battle mage (or whatever you'd call it). They just said they want to tweak him so that the player's ability to play Ryze isn't so canyon'd as from Challenger to Bronze/Silver. They said they want him to be easier to pick up and learn, and a consistent winrate from high to low.

Foxynth1 votes

I mean I'm bottom of the barrel as far as elo goes... but I mean I understand how he works. But that's just me.

AceGeo1 votes

but I mean I understand how he works.

It's not about understanding how he works, but instead making him work. -His winrate in bronze/silver is like 40%?

Foxynth2 votes

I.. suppose... I mean, I always play at least one custom game just to see what combos work and which ones don't.

Kloqdq1 votes

I think the main problem in the kit comes down to that stupid point and click root. THAT, THAT is the problem with ryze in my opinion. It should be changed and should have always been changed because it's just not a cool ability. Rune prison becoming a skill shot or something would honestly help ryze be less annoying for lower elos, and allow him to be buffed.

Foxynth1 votes

lul, that's the trolliest move ever for me to use imo and I abuse that fact so much.

Kloqdq1 votes

I am glad it got nerfed from the 2 second point and click root. It's such an abusive ability on the champion. He can just win trades off it alone buy walking up to them, rooting them, then bashing them in the head with like 3 rotations of abilities. There should be some skill put into it.

It's at least what I believe to be holding a good amount of his power budget. His ult can also be massive but it's harder to find success with.

Foxynth2 votes

True, but his early game leaves literally everything to be desired before mid and late come into play. He's an even weaker version of kayle in the early game.

Kloqdq1 votes

That's why I am saying we make it a skill shot and shift his power into his abilities again. He lost a lot of power from his hard nerfs and could use some shifting of strengths.

Foxynth2 votes

I can see that working a little bit.

AceGeo1 votes

It's such an abusive ability He can just win trades off it alone

You're correct. However I don't think he'd be winning any trades whatsoever or getting any damage off at all if he couldn't abuse it. He's a late game champion as is and takes a while to even do damage properly. Lower elos probably have a hard time dodging his Q I'm guessing, though, yeah.

His ult can also be massive but it's harder to find success with.

Like Riot has stated, "His ult doesn't get fully utilized until higher elos where teams know where and when to group."

hhaavviikk1 votes

they should just get rid of the instant undodgeable snare, playing as a melee he uses W>E>Q on you and he just rushes off with a shield to boot, nothing to do about it

AceGeo1 votes

W>Q>E>Q

The enemy Ryze is bronze if he's skipping the Q in between. hehe But yeah, I thought about that as well. It would kinda prevent him from ever getting kills tho. I mean like 80% of his assists or kills would be negated as of current. Because if the W was a skillshot, it'd have to last longer for him to even get any damage off on the enemy laner.

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