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Riot, look at mundo.

Fist of Sett··3 votes·1,046 views

Alright, maybe I'm gonna get flak for saying this, but regardless, I hope some people at Riot see this.

MUNDO IS BROKEN.

Not anything new here. Mundo needs a nerf thats just short of a damn rework. He does copious amounts of damage, has a perma slow, an ult that is more ridiculous than Tryndamere's, and can deal lethal damage at just tank items. Nothing else. Nasus can do the same, but he has to farm a lot and propery stack his Q. Mundo's Q slows (and the slow lasts longer than the cooldown. Hmm.), deals insane damage, and heals him. He has aoe with his ring of fire, as well as cc removal, MORE insane damage with masochism, a passive that is reminiscent of Garens, and his ult. His bloody ult. This Gives him MORE move speed, as well as Pretty much his entire health bar back.

Laning against him is a nightmare. People now say "Oh! But he was nerfed!" Yet he still is always banned. And he still does insane damage, and is near unkillable. His passive isn't too bad. His Q needs that slow/heal/cooldown rate changed, his ult, his kit needs to be nerfed, if not flat out reworked. Riot, look at champions like mundo, and please, PLEASE, realize that they need to be fixed.

If people reading this have opinions or advice on how to beat Mundo, or counter arguments, by all means, I'd love to hear it. Please keep it civil, as I don't intend to attack Mundo players with this tangent, and would prefer insight and a conversation to flat out insults to me or other players.

I really hope this gets through to a Riot employee.

15 Comments

RogueWill3 votes

If you haveproblems with him during laning phase then I'm sorry to say the problem is with you. He has a really weak laning phase maybe comparable to old poppy. Most mundos are forced to play really passive early game or else they will get slaugthered, pretty much everyone out damages him early. That doesn't mean he is easy to kill on lane thou since his ult will keep him in lane, so get either someone with an execute to kill him early or someone that scale hard late game as well.

Take ignite and his ult will be useless

Fist of Sett1 votes

So Darius could potentially be a good counter pick? And an issue I have is that he can farm from very far away with his cleavers early.

Ricky Spanish DC2 votes

He used to be pretty strong, but they nerfed his e damage and now he is pretty balanced. It is your fault if you cannot dodge his cleavers or at least stand behind minions. He is just anoying because he is so tanky, but he is not really op at all.

GlockHammer1 votes

He's below 50% winrate, what's so OP about him? I understand he can be somewhat opressive in lane against certain pick or when he comes to gank, especially if you are bad at dodging cleavers. Me personally, I don't mind getting me a Mundo top to play against. I generally wreck them.

Tip, if you're an adc main, try Vayne into him, she can literally duel him alone even if he's fed. Ofc, and again I stress, it comes down to dodging those cleavers, do that and he's nothing but a meatwall.

Tip, you can also hide behind minions to evade cleavers, but if ur really good, you can juke them into a spot where he hits nothing and wastes alot of hp on nothing.

Tip, % health damage wrecks him, true damage and ignite wrecks him.

Fist of Sett1 votes

Aside from Garen/Darius/vayne, do you have any champ recommendations?

GlockHammer1 votes

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Aside from Garen/Darius/vayne, do you have any champ recommendations?

I generally wreck him with Voli, as far as laning goes. But that also comes down to him not getting the free cleaver harass on you, your passive and bite makes you hella dangerous to fight when ur both getting low.

His early game power is bad unless hitting those cleavers, u can e him whenever he comes in to trade, that will scare off his minions for 3 seconds and slow him down while urs apply full damage, the Q makes sure he can never run but bait the cleaver first or make sure ur within range before using it, u can also use it to flip him into ur minion wave for some wicked winnion damage, and W for the execute. Rinse repeat, but watch ur mana bar and as always, ward. Don't overextend with very low mana if you don't know where his jungler is, ur ability to escape ganks hangs on it. Prioratize using W for harass while in lane, try to get a few hits of before using it as it hits harder the lower your opponents hp is. Once you hit 6 he will have so few items you can just steamroll him with your ult and superior mobility but bait out his ult first before going all in, or get him low enough that it won't matter.

I personally use 18/0/12 masteries, going fervor of battle since it gives great passive damage without needing any items to scale, really good on lane voli since he get's nice attack speed passive from his W. Volibear is pretty flexible in his build but I like to build him super tanky since he already has good deal of damage in his kit being a fighter. Deadmans is absolute core on him so never skip it our you will be eating dust whenever trying to flip someone lategame, I generally prefer getting solar cape before building it though, for more dps in extended trades, at least when laning Voli.

3 MS quints, attack speed marks, armor seals, and scaling mr glyphs. Dorans shield + 1 pot start, Dorans shield may be bad, but it has all the things Voli needs so ad advice getting it over corruption potion.

I feel confident enough going into this matchup that I use teleport/flash summoners, but if you're not that confident you can switch teleport for ignite to wreck him even more, beware that you will be giving up pressure to dominate the lane however.

Start W then Q or E depending on what you feel u need for lvl 2, make sure you have all 3 base skills at lvl 3, you are very effective then, Max ur W and ur ult first, then ur E for more damage/more potent slow, I personally like putting an extra point in Q before maxing E though for the extra mobility but that's my flavour I guess.

Try it out sometime, works great for me, hope it works good for you too.

TheKind1 votes

He's countered fairly easily. Just go Quinn or a marksman of some sort and you should win lane.

LaughingStapler1 votes

He's not OP at all and his winrate reflects that you are the problem rather than Mundo. You're either countering yourself with some really garbage picks or you just don't take advantage of his weaknesses.

trash sion1 votes

He has a 47% winrate... if you still ban Mundo then you have to be stupid. He needs buffs.

GlockHammer1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Azuk the Jungler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=97yTNcc3,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-03-13T23:43:01.730+0000)

He has a 47% winrate... if you still ban Mundo then you have to be stupid. He needs buffs.

He doesn't need buffs, he's good right where he is.

trash sion1 votes

No he isn't, or he'd have a 50% winrate. Your personal opinion on his uselessness being "fine" doesn't matter, he's not balanced.

GlockHammer1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Azuk the Jungler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=97yTNcc3,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2016-03-14T01:27:47.439+0000)

No he isn't, or he'd have a 50% winrate. Your personal opinion on his uselessness being "fine" doesn't matter, he's not balanced.

Whatever.

Fist of Sett1 votes

Like I stated above, I'd appreciate if you kept insults off this board, and keep civil

Fist of Sett1 votes

Thanks for all the help people, really. I had lost horribly to mundo and had vented it (again) on the boards. I had had this same problem with Xin, and had put it on the boards, not realizing how easy to counter him is. To all the people who gave advice, thanks. Means a lot

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