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How come Zyra's plants don't proc Manaflow Band? They proc everything else

LeoiJw··1 votes·1,286 views

They proc keystones and other Runes They proc item effects item 3116 item 3151 item 3285 They count as spells being blocked by item 3102

I just find it odd how tagging someone with a Q-plant will proc all of these things but it wont work with Manaflow Band.

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The entire team1 votes

It’s because Manaflow procs from hitting an enemy champ with a spell. Zyra’s plants are separate, as they are minions, not spells.

LeoiJw1 votes

But they proc spell effects is what I'm saying, which means they're counted as spells, which means Manaflow SHOULD proc.

Same should go for any pet I would say.

Illabethe1 votes

spell effect =/= spell. Sometimes the actual context matters.

Like..... with On hit and On attack effects. On attack effects are more limited in application than on hit effects.

LeoiJw1 votes

That makes no sense and just seems like lazy coding especially considering the fact that the only thing that plants and other pet-minions can't proc is Manaflow.

Illabethe1 votes

It allows them to add more levels of governance to item/rune interactions that help balance them on one kit versus another. The fact they generally allow Ezreal's Q to be a Spell, an On hit effect, and used to count as an attack is the sole aberration in this balance, and is why they eventually removed the on attack criteria (it was double proccing certain runes/Muramana)

If all on hit effects and on attack effects were the same thing, Illaoi's W would proc certain effects three times. VERY hard to balance.

Kazekiba1 votes

Theyre DoTs. Brand doesn't stack Tear from his passive damage even if its off CD and the damage applies Liandrys etc

LeoiJw2 votes

Tear procs on spell activation, not damage. so idk what you're trying to say here.

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