AD/on-hit Kog'maw is riot bait.

Jurojin Wuji·9/7/2016, 5:48:29 PM·2 votes·1,059 views

I feel like riot is secretly laughing in their office desks at how much players aren't transitioning.

I'm revisiting AP being natural on kog'maw. I'm sad still no one is trying it with all the changes this year.

I want to start with two major points: adc update and midyear mage update.

In the adc update, koggito was passed by/touched upon but received literally no ad ratios in his kit. not. one. I lie, he received a negative ratio on the ONLY modifier for any ad build.

Both AD and onhit builds are absolutely, downright, totally, undeniably terrible at pushing towers. The onhit is actually so damn troll because it isn't really building much ad or ap at all (the jgl koggie bear makes me sad everytime).

I understand, standing still and spitting at stuff with 5 aspd is cool, but so were ap gp ults, tank ekko/fizz and ad lulu.

In the mid year mage update, half of your ap = dmg to towers. This. THIS.

kogzilla has the potential to push harder than azir and ziggs just because of this alone. why is no one noticing the potential power of mag dmg to towers?

It makes me sad. it really does.

Im begging any streamers that might see this, any fellow plat or above players that might see this: Give it a try. Start morrellos for mana and cooldowns. then build at your leisure just try to fit a rabadons and nashors in there.

start and max e. max q second.

go thunderlords.

The thought behind new attempted kogpies failing with it is the thought that points should be going into w and nashors should be rushed because his ap ratios suck. Do. not. disservice. yourself. kogkun is a mage marksmen. use his ratios.

He still has the same innate weakness: being a glass cannon. So, despite me carrying solo queue games, I know he would be monstrous on pre-made teams.

As I said, I know, 5 aspd is nice, but ive hit close to 4 apsd with just nashors and runaans (which is unneeded imo when you can one shot carries with a q,e,r).

Im pleading with players to try it. I play it ranked mid and have carried more games than I can count. I promise you, you will do more dmg than any of the ad/onit builds.

even an end of game comparison would be welcome. I would show it myself, but ad/onhit builds not having harass or push power tilts me as im playing the my sexy beast, so I would not offer a fair end of game ad match-up.

thanks to all that read this.

EDIT: since kogkun changes are being discussed.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/35291609

91 games on kogzilla, 56% win rate.

not showing off. just saying it is good. all my games were solo q. with tops or supps that went ap cuz they thought i would suck. my success would be higher in a premade, easily.

Also to note, im a bad player. look at any other champ i play. but my kog'maw beats EVERY. SINGLE. RANKED. AVERAGE.

less dmg taken, more dmg dealt, higher kda, better farm and win rate.

9 Comments

Embertine9/7/2016, 5:53:08 PM2 votes

KogMaw item 3006 item 1416 item 3124 item 3153 item 3085 item 3026 is the most over powered thing I've seen.

Triple kill in as little as 2.5 seconds.

LadyRenly9/7/2016, 5:50:47 PM1 votes

eh, any time i go ap kog i just face asshole yasuo players and i remind myself why do i even bother playing mana intensive low mobility champs

Spartan Sol9/7/2016, 6:56:37 PM1 votes

AD/on-hit kog is by far superior. he has the highest potential dps in the game as AD-onhit. you actually outleech the yasuo in a 1v1 with a botrk and he dies in like 1.5 secs due to the W, you just have to bait out the Windwall before hand. Ap kog is easily viable tho his scalings are pretty high but in general the on hit version is just far far more powerful. just not against towers lol.

Jurojin Wuji9/9/2016, 2:32:04 PM1 votes

Just to bring this back, since kogkun changes are being discussed.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/35291609

91 games on kogzilla, 56% win rate.

not showing off. just saying it is good. all my games were solo q. with tops or supps that went ap cuz they thought i would suck. my success would be higher in a premade, easily.