What am I doing wrong in order to get a S/S+?

StyxiGGWP1·May 27, 2019·1 votes·1,767 views

Have a look at these 2 recent matches: https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3052312516/2124449387719712?tab=overview https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3052287563/2124449387719712?tab=overview Tell me, what am I doing wrong? I've read the guide to get a S/S+ and I did everything they said, but I don't get it, why am I still getting a S- and A+, It really makes me uncomfortable because I want to get a MasteryLevel7 on my Hecarim I guess it's because of the wards but not sure, I usually ward baron and dragon, somewhere else, less.

21 Comments

ThingamajigMay 27, 20191 votes

low damage contribution and low warding score

for someone that is seemingly carrying judging by the farm and kda your over all contribution isn't what decided the games outcome ie despite you looking like you did well if your team wasn't already winning on their own you would have lost both games

StyxiGGWP1May 27, 20191 votes

I'm a new jungle main (quite fun, to be honest), I can't think of a place to ward outside of dragons and baron, I ward to bushes if they was hiding, and earlygame bush, red or blue. Can you make a list where warding is worth?

ThingamajigMay 27, 20191 votes

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I'm a new jungle main (quite fun, to be honest), I can't think of a place to ward outside of dragons and baron, I ward to bushes if they was hiding, and earlygame bush, red or blue. Can you make a list where warding is worth?

wards have the function to spot out junglers and their intentions if you just ward and leave there is no point to that

think of your own pathing and try to ward depending on your intentions

AlienPrimateMay 27, 20191 votes

This is only a guess, but I would assume it is your 0 participation in pushing towers. In both games you had no damage dealt to towers. Stick around for a bit after successful ganks to help kill towers, especially before 14 minutes when you get free gold from hitting the towers.

StyxiGGWP1May 27, 20191 votes

so, taking towers worth more than getting objectives alone? lesson learned, ty

Edit: destroying towers is also a part of ganking? I'm quite new to jungling, I don't know what to do after taking enemies down on gank.

Kai GuyMay 27, 20191 votes

Depends on map state and champion your playing. After a good gank you have a handful of options. Back to shop and heal. Move to jungle OBJ like Rift,drag,barron. Rotate to a new lane. Return to your/enemy jungle and clear camps for EXP and Gold. Remain in lane for Lane OBJ (more kill/tower)

People can give you their opinion of what the best option tends to be but I feel it tends to be more game to game moment to moment and good shotcalling > some robotic playlist of actions to be taken.

Like If I said mids the best lane to gank and your mid is basically garbage (lets say drunk AF for the excuse why) then constantly trying to achieve the priority I set here... would likely screw you over that game and your teammates. Your better off adapting to the match then having a check list style gameplay.

StyxiGGWP1May 29, 20191 votes

Can I ask a foolish question? When do I recall after gank or target tower after gank?

Kai GuyMay 29, 20191 votes

Not foolish at all.

Honestly your far better off looking for a dedicated main of your picks then talking to me. Try some reddit sub main boards for your champions.

But... well here is a cheat fill all answer. Personally… Map state is my step 1. How many enemy's are dead or visible on minimap. How good is Ward coverage? Whats under pressure or a priority? Where is the minion waves? step 2. game state. Whats my HP, Laner hp? Are plates up? What Camps can be/get invaded during this time? (do you know an enemy respawn or is one of yourse close?) Is there a more valuable jungle OBJ me and Lane X can take with more value then a tower? Can we even damage tower or is there a long wave wait?

StyxiGGWP1May 29, 20191 votes

So, instead of learning how to jungle, I need to ask myself the questions over the game court? I far put a mistake in games because I always do what they say in the guide, rather than doing things myself.

Edit: Yea, huge mistake.

Kai GuyMay 29, 20192 votes

I mean... how many guides cover every specific match up of teammate VS enemy champiosn that also cover the skill of each player behind that champion?

Probably best to try to use the context of each individual game in your decision making imo. I feel like I used a cheaty fill all answer. IMO What you want to do Is learn how to make those calls. I'd hit reddit subords for mains.

AlienPrimateMay 27, 20191 votes

I personally think towers are the most important part. If you can kill a tower for free, why would you go for Rift Herald which is just a potential tower? Taking the outer tower in bottom lane makes future dragons much safer. I generally focus my attention on bottom and top lane because taking those outer towers makes taking baron/rift and dragon easier and it allows those laners to rotate to mid for a siege. Bottom and top are also usually easier to gank. There is more space between towers to work with before you have to consider diving.

For when to stay and push, it depends on the state of the lane and who your enemy is. Wave control is also very important and staying in lane to push the tower can sometimes screw over your laner. One thing you never want to do is leave a lane with the minions past half way on the enemy's side. You don't even have to know which way it is going to push when the lane is there. If it is pushing towards you, your laner will miss cs before getting back to lane and if it is pushing towards the enemy without being under tower your enemy can freeze it. Always take the time to at least push the minions under the enemy tower and then decide how much time you have before they come back. If the wave is on your side of the lane you can either do nothing or stick around for a minute to freeze it for your laner. This is done by tanking minions outside of your tower and only last hitting them.

If people complain about you taking cs after a gank to push to the enemy tower just ignore them. They are ignorant of game mechanics and will never climb with that mentality.

StyxiGGWP1May 29, 20191 votes

I do mute their pings and chat if they tries to do so, yea. Now I understand, taking towers after gank is much more important

TehNACHOMay 27, 20191 votes

Go into your Profile Page (in the client) and look for the "Stats" tab. It gives you all the significant factors that go into grading you over your last few games.

StyxiGGWP1May 27, 20191 votes

oh, ty. I didn't noticed that it exsited.

SaezioMay 27, 20191 votes

1st game 9/29 kills you are involved thats like 31% kp really low 2nd game you got 0 damage to towers.

For S you need high cs high KP high damage to towers and objectives

StyxiGGWP1May 27, 20191 votes

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1st game 9/29 kills you are involved thats like 31% kp really low 2nd game you got 0 damage to towers.

For S you need high cs high KP high damage to towers and objectives

I thought I need to avoid dying? like hell, I've spared loads of lives instead of killing them on towers.

Kai GuyMay 27, 20191 votes

Also OP needs to improve Vision. 5 wards each game. 0 Controls wards.

StyxiGGWP1May 27, 20191 votes

Can you guys send me a jungle guide? I've seen many but none of them specify for new jungler, I have many parts that I don't understand like What to do after ganking,Ganking or Objectives, etc...

TehNACHOMay 27, 20192 votes

I like to use skill-capped.

In general though, after the gank you want to do two things, check your and your laner's HP bars and look at the state of the lane. If either of you are below 50% HP, especially against anyone who can roam over and has high kill pressure, just back. You got a gank off, probably a kill, good job. If you or both of you are high enough HP though, you need to decide if you want to push the lane or freeze the lane. Here is a guide on freezing lane, and if a freeze is not optimal for the situation, you should shove it up to tower. If you have a GIGANTIC minion wave, or if your laner starts hitting them, kill the next wave that comes to you under tower. Otherwise, just ignore them while you whack the tower. This will cause the lane to bounce back towards your laner, setting up you and your laner for more power plays (see the NSFW camping guide). Killing the next minion wave under the enemy tower's will cause a complete reset, which is good for very specific matchups MonkeyKing Pantheon but it's really not optimal so avoid if you can. What you do after all that is champion and route specific though.

Instead of Ganking or Objectives, you should really think Ganking and Objectives. With that said however, let's say you see a laner or the Jungler roam over and gank the opposite side of the map, do you gank, do you solo the Dragon/Herald, or do you hold/shove the nearest lane? Once again, this is champion specific, but these are the options you should be weighing in your mind.

After all that, you transition into the midgame like so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQvoWcH37O4

And, well, that's your Jungling Guide.

StyxiGGWP1May 29, 20191 votes

ty, I've never seen a guide that is so in-depth like this, Youtube lied me though