WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE NEW PATCH 7.24 NERFS AND BUFFS(Sona is getting nerfed)??

OnlyICanHearHer·Dec 7, 2017·4 votes·1,183 views

YO guys, this is really big but pls read it(thank you if you are going to do it :D <3)! I just saw the new information about the patch 7.24 AND LITERALLY MY HEAD GOT EXPLODED. I am a Sona OTP for a really long time now, and I FCKING LOVE THIS GIRL and she is so ballanced, my division is gold 1 and while im playing with Sona i don't use to be the spammy type(QWEQWEQWE) although my mana really fast gets spent and i end up being unable to use any abillity while the team fight is still in progress, this can even happen while in late game and i even build mana items some times (mana cap increasing or mana regeneration) and even after this rito wants to increase the mana cost in her Q?(+15 in every level!) This is overdone! RITO BUFFED RIVEN AND DARIUS AND THEN NERF SONA?????????? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? ARE DARIUS AND RIVEN WEAK AND SONA IS OP? I don't think so! Sona's abillities are spammy and she buffs her allies all the time, but all the buffs are not that powerfull, her q buffs an AutoAttack but the buff is really weak as i said, same with her heal and her movement speed buff, they are weak but can be repeated really fast so this makes her not overpowered but not weak either! I think this nerfs is really insane and i personally think as a Sona OTP that she is gonna become extremelly weak even in the late game! Btw i always max w on her first cause i am the supportish type and not the poking one, but the poke completes sona's kit as a healer/buffer support, so i even use it to poke enemies but COME ON with this nerf there is no way even a player like me survives(by maxing w and not q). Q now is goin to cost 60 mana at the first level, this is overdone. She is gonna need recall every few mins to recover mana. PLS remove this nerf, its going to destroy her! Or at least with this nerf applied rito can simply buff her w too, by lowering this abillity's mana, this way most players will be forsed to max w on her and act more as a supp, cause by maxing q her w protect is really weak and she is more like an ap poking/damaging champion in bot(cause of the big poke dmg!). One more option is to simply nerf only her Q's damage and not increase the mana cost, if the damage is the problem then just nerf only the damage. So guys pls choose bellow if you agree: 1.Rito removes this nerf(wich is the best of the 3 options by my opinion)! 2.With the nerf they buff Sona's w by lowering this abillity's mana cost! And 3.if the poke dmg is that op they can at leat simply nerf only the damage, not increase the mana cost! If you dissagree pls let me know in the comment section bellow. All the opinions are appreciated but pls if you gonna reject me think well first, i don't want to see people's comment that want to just say an argument just to make them selfs look smart! THANK YOU! <3

17 Comments

AzadetheDec 7, 20173 votes

No offense But I've already tested new Sona after "nerf" and I'm pulling off slightly more damage, about the same heals, and the same kill participation as ever. The Mana change really didn't affect her much, given that a Good Sona builds for W's mana costs anyways.

And, on my standard Sona items, sieging turrets seems even faster, because my Q's empower is slightly larger than it was considering the Q's AP scaling going up. That could be the HP bar change, but it sure looks faster.

sonics shadowDec 7, 20172 votes

Her nerf is far too harsh, cutting all of her damage in half now she cant poke at all in lane, they just heal it up by the time the next poke comes around and that defeats the purpose of poking.

OnlyICanHearHerDec 7, 20171 votes

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Her nerf is far too harsh, cutting all of her damage in half now she cant poke at all in lane, they just heal it up by the time the next poke comes around and that defeats the purpose of poking.

ok but what about the mana? they added a lot mana cost in her q this wasn't need and has nothing to do with dmg! pls vote up there! i think the number 3 is for you!

AhrisDec 7, 20171 votes

Rito should at least revert the W nerf and all the other nerf she had and keep the Q nerf. That was imo the only problem I think.

StoryDuckDec 7, 20171 votes

Owe, my eyes. That is one big block of text.

I think i get the jist of it though. Yeah, the nerfs are a bit much especially when added to the blanket nerf of all enchanter items but not support tank items. My theory is that they are trying to make them so weak that people start complaining about them being too weak so they can give them even stronger buffs later!

On another note the damage nerf isn't as bad as it seems. If you get 150 AP on sona you break even to what it was before. Sona players will often have more then that so its a buff to her late game which is a good thing. I do worry the mana nerfs are a bit much though.

OnlyICanHearHerDec 7, 20171 votes

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Owe, my eyes. That is one big block of text.

I think i get the jist of it though. Yeah, the nerfs are a bit much especially when added to the blanket nerf of all enchanter items but not support tank items. My theory is that they are trying to make them so weak that people start complaining about them being too weak so they can give them even stronger buffs later!

On another note the damage nerf isn't as bad as it seems. If you get 150 AP on sona you break even to what it was before. Sona players will often have more then that so its a buff to her late game which is a good thing. I do worry the mana nerfs are a bit much though.

yeah same here, as i said they can nefr dmg but this mana cost increase was rly overdone!

LuthianDelphiJan 17, 20181 votes

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Owe, my eyes. That is one big block of text.

I think i get the jist of it though. Yeah, the nerfs are a bit much especially when added to the blanket nerf of all enchanter items but not support tank items. My theory is that they are trying to make them so weak that people start complaining about them being too weak so they can give them even stronger buffs later!

On another note the damage nerf isn't as bad as it seems. If you get 150 AP on sona you break even to what it was before. Sona players will often have more then that so its a buff to her late game which is a good thing. I do worry the mana nerfs are a bit much though.

if u do the math its actually 300 Ap (If im not mistaken thats off of memory did it a while ago)

RivuoDec 7, 20171 votes

Sona was poking adcs out of lane before lvl 2.

I havent fought a Sona since patch so i dont know of her current power. But i'll have to see. Her win rate is still 52%.

Dr DogDec 7, 20171 votes

add a keep the changes option to the poll you just come off as bias and salty, and everything is deserved you SHOULD lose a decent amount of mana for poke that after sheen can half hp the enemy, her heal SHOULD be weaker as her heal and shield arent one person its multiple she is pretty much the most oppressive support in lane she clicks one button and whoop everything you did to poke is gone, you try to farm? her q is up and costs nothing along with quarter hping you on top of all that she has a easy, big, aoe stun that also does dmg, you said she was balenced and you know thats a lie her winrate, playrate, impact and everything make that very obvious and riven doesnt need buffs i agree with that they just need to overhaul tempo for something fighters can use thats why shes eh rn but darius very much needed buffs as one of the weakest top laners in the game

OnlyICanHearHerDec 7, 20171 votes

ok you are a little bit overdone RELAX A BIT! she is really squishy and her q does not even deal that much! cmon you didn't read the part "All the opinions are appreciated but pls if you gonna reject me think well first, i don't want to see people's comment that want to just say an argument just to make them selfs look smart! THANK YOU! <3" in my post? HUH?

Dr DogDec 7, 20171 votes

have you actually never vsed a sona? her q plus the auto a couple times pushes you out of lane if you dont have a healing support, she isnt supposed to be a mage support like karma shes supposed to be more on par with soraka but not a complete heal bot like her theres no reason she should out dmg the mid laner in most games which she does the real issue with her is she needs a full rework on her q because targeted unavoidable nukes are unhealthy

OnlyICanHearHerDec 7, 20171 votes

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have you actually never vsed a sona? her q plus the auto a couple times pushes you out of lane if you dont have a healing support, she isnt supposed to be a mage support like karma shes supposed to be more on par with soraka but not a complete heal bot like her theres no reason she should out dmg the mid laner in most games which she does the real issue with her is she needs a full rework on her q because targeted unavoidable nukes are unhealthy

dude she is my champion i am Sona OTP i do know everything about her and ofc i have fought vs her in the past and she is not that op as you say exept if she plays full ap! i am not crazy that i said once that you are overdone and i dont wanna fight you either you just keep saying crazy things! about the rework u said in her q, this is another discuss!

Dr DogDec 7, 20171 votes

making her q take actual thought isnt "crazy" and the only way people build sona IS full ap rn thats why shes broken in the first place

AzadetheDec 7, 20171 votes

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making her q take actual thought isnt "crazy" and the only way people build sona IS full ap rn thats why shes broken in the first place

And the change actually buffed AP sona's group damage lol.... so i don't know why they are complaining. The Only Sonas who should be complaining about Q are those who build Redemption and Mikhael's and still expect to 1 hit people.