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Can someone teach me to get passed "bad" teammates?

StCali··1 votes·1,082 views

I am currently in the middle of another huge losing streak (right now 1-12 on 2 accounts/last one was 2-22). I have looked for help on reddit and summonerschool but nothing seems to help. cant tell if im tilted or not since I tend to play pretty well. Lately I've been playing mainly Supports since it was suggested that if you're struggling in game it may help to go into the support role, only problem is, that hasn't help the losing streak at all.

When i play other roles (mainly top or adc) i still do fine. some matchups are harder than others but for the most part I get kills push lanes team fight well. However, the problem is that most games I've been getting lately are decided really early bcuz the other lanes feed or the jg feeds and doesn't back up lanes that are struggling and we get steamrolled. Now i know this might be a tired concept, but i truly don't know how to turn these games around and i honestly don't know how to "get good" in situations like this.

I was hoping a higher elo player might be able to give me some tricks on how to over come this, or help give me an idea on how to Carry games like this. i know most ppl are gonna say it's something im not doing for the team, but when u go 9-6-5 and ur teammates combine for 43 deaths (18 by 20mins) im not sure what i should be doing to pull out a win.

thanks again in advance.

14 Comments

A Basic Island2 votes

there is no way you go 2-22 because of "bad teammates."

when you realize that you are the one consistent factor in this 24 games, you'll start to climb.

I'm not saying every game is winnable, because that isn't true

I'm also not saying that you're never going into champ select knowing you'll lose, because it does happen

but to be 2-22 is nobodies fault but your own

pE4CbxDPQO1 votes

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there is no way you go 2-22 because of "bad teammates."

You must be new here.

A Basic Island2 votes

it's actually a little refreshing to see a "i'm winning under 10% of my games due to teammates" thread rather than a "omg pls nerf zed/lee/yasuo" thread

StCali1 votes

well I aim to please. but i really aim trying to learn lol i dont think I'm a master at this game just trying to learn from losses and I'm not getting much, just salt.

StCali1 votes

Then instead of just saying that, since you seem to know some way to get outta this can u please give me some ideas on how to correct my play? i mean that is why I posted this. I'm not saying I'm a great player, hell my goal was to try and get to Gold 5 this year from Silver and I would be happy. But just saying "you're the problem" isn't really helping me.

In lane, if I'm adc i farm and poke when i can to have a support go all in when I'm either no where near them or bcuz they failed to see the enemy jg coming or when neither one of us has enough mana to do much (even with AA). If I'm top, I farm and do light trades until i either know i can get a kill or a gank comes, and if i can go mid to help i do or help with a obj. As support I ward up and trade with the duo lane and try to set up kills and help where i can in team fights. I fail to see (i guess) where if im supp and my top laner goes 0-5 and jg feeds a couple kills how that is my fault, or more importantly how i can turn that around to put the game more in our favor.

A Basic Island1 votes

Honestly, if you've posted before i don't think there's really anything i can tell you that you probably haven't already read here.

I wouldn't play adc to climb. I'd get good at jungle and mid, since those two roles can impact the game the most

Next, you want to get good ta champs that can just shit stomp the lane opponent. Smart play doesn't work so well in lower tiers, and you win via just steamrolling most of the time.

StCali1 votes

This is the first time posting here. I've posted on Reddit b4, but that went no where fast since it was just low elo shaming and i thought i would give the main board a try. Like i said, I've applied alot of what ppl have told me to do and its done very little to change the outcome of games. Last night i had a bot lane go 2-24 at 20 mins lol theres nothing I can do there even with the mid roaming i was doing.

I could work on Mid but I am absolutely terrible at jg. tried to jg in even MOBA ive played and its the one role i literally just dont get.

A Basic Island1 votes

Well, if you really want to climb I'd try my best to learn jungle. With the new que, you can guarantee jungle and mid, and can impact the game as best possible. I would at all costs avoid ADC+support. I'm not going to say you need to rely on them to be good, but you kind of need them to not be terrible. A good adc/support can easily carry their fellow laner, but i would advise against trying to do it for awhile.

Play champs that can 2v1. Learn to last hit effectively.

This is rather difficult and can only really be learned through playing the game, but you gotta be able to gauge whether or not a fight is winnable or not.

Don't jump into a losing fight just because a teamate got caught and you were close by. Sure they're gonna say "OMG WHY DIDN"T YOU HELP PLS DEPORT!!!" but it's better than just feeding 2 kills.

Look at probuilds.com/net (idk which) and learn how to build champs from there. You may have your personal item preferences, but that doesn't mean they are correct. When you learn the champion, and when what items are good, then maybe you can diverge into different builds but for now build according to the pros and try to figure out why they are building what they are. Don't just look at a final build and the build path and copy it

If you absolutely must avoid jungle, I'd do top and mid.

What champs do you like to play?

StCali1 votes

I try to focus on Top and Mid, since they r solo lanes and I have no one to blame but myself if i lose lane. but lately ive lost all confidence in the game in general. I am right now on a 2-20 losing streak between 2 accounts and im just getting so tired of the teams im getting. i know it sounds like low ELO BS, but its getting ridiculous. Ive been just sticking to fill (which is usually supp) in normals and i swear to god every team i get feeds b4 10 mins and then tries to save the world 5v3... I just supported a Urgot who was 50 cs down at 20 mins (79 total) and didnt understand bard heals... and would go in 2v1 and die at turret...with 1/3 of his health... i hate sounding like a broken record but shit, im tired of losing.

I'm fairly good at CSing, i miss a few but i usually out CS the enemy laner.

i definitely have gotten much better at gauging a teamfight, but I'm getting teams that will go in 3v5 when theyre levels and kills behind without warding and think they can win. so i do what i can (since they engage b4 the rest the team is there) and then back out so i dont feed more kills.

I always watch to see what the pros are building bcuz I would rather do what works rather than something crazy so thats no the problem too.

For top i like to play Jayce, Poppy, gangplank, sion, Tahm Kench, Trundle, been trying to learn the new Shen.

I dont have many champs for mid since ive been focusing top more, but i play Malz, Viktor, Ziggs (on a Ocassion) was trying to learn Ekko as well.

what you deserve1 votes

Junglers shouldn't gank struggling lanes

StCali1 votes

ok well that makes sense. The jg i have been getting lately usually sit in jg and farm most the game and don't even gank neutral lanes or do a quick drive by. Since I don't jg at all its hard for me to understand what's going on in the mind of a jg. So what should they be doing or where should i look to help the team when things r going south fast?

agbudar1 votes

start playing mid instead. and play something safe

Reep Daggle1 votes

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