[Proposal] LP gained for MVP and lost for LVP after game!

Mdluli··2 votes·1,170 views

At the end of ranked games, both teams should vote for the most and least valuable players on the enemy team. The MVP and LVP gain and lose additional LP as follows:

Winning Team MVP will gain bonus LP [e.g. 10LP] for contributing the most to the win. Winning Team LVP will receive reduced LP gain for risking the team's win. [but they will still get LP]

Losing Team MVP will receive reduced LP loss for having contributed the most for the team. [i.e. they will still lose LP for the loss, but not as much] Losing Team LVP will lose additional LP for being the greatest contributor to the loss.

Reasoning:

  • Players can't vote for their own MVP and LVP because they are not as objective as the enemy team.

  • The idea is to factor in aspects of matches that MMR algorithms can't reliably account for. In other words, there are important factors of the game that only the players will understand

  • The current honour and reporting systems don't seem to affect players' behaviour much. I think this is because honour means very little for more experienced players [there are simply no worthwhile benefits] and because reports often punish players by giving them Queue bans or something else that amounts to a rap on the knuckles. This results in players not caring about honour or being reported.

  • This proposed MVP-LVP system will reward/punish using what players in ranked really value: LP. This could actually lead to improvement in behaviour and increased effort put into games.

Admin:

  • Three votes are needed to grant MVP or LVP status. Otherwise, LP will be granted using the "normal" method.

  • Pre-made parties cannot give more than 2 votes to the same person.

  • LVP penalties can be lower than MVP bonuses to factor in mercy [but maybe not -.-]

  • Voting is compulsory [otherwise people will ignore it after the game like they often do with honour and reports]

Thoughts? I know this idea isn't perfect :/

12 Comments

ViiLLAiN2 votes

YEAH sounds great until trolls come around and vote u LVP because they didnt like something u did or said to them

SwiftKitten881 votes

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YEAH sounds great until trolls come around and vote u LVP because they didnt like something u did or said to them

i need to agree with this... while i do like the IDEA, it can too easily be abused

Mdluli1 votes

How so?

I'd like to hear how this could go wrong because I'd like to refine it. Bear in mind though that the current system isn't perfect either and is also abused :/

Mdluli1 votes

I see what you mean, but in my experience, troll games are fairly rare. Even among those troll games; it's usually only one player who trolls. Three trolls would be required to vote you LVP.

The system I proposed is meant to cater for more average games; not rare games.

Thanks for your feedback though!

Soraka Rules1 votes

maybe if we had solo que. Dyanamos will just vote you down if this was true!

ViiLLAiN1 votes

u must not play much league then im always stuck with trios and duos or quads who always ban together whether it be feeding together trolling together or in the one instance when the league gods decide to bless me they carry together.... but the gods are not in my favor most of the time...

Mdluli1 votes

I've played for around 8 hours a day for the past week. Otherwise I usually play just one game per day.

Sorry that you are so often caught up with people who have it in for you. Fortunately, most games are with players who are not pre-made at all or who only have a premade of 2.

I'm assuming that you confirm that they are pre-made by using something like OPGG or LolKing or whatever instead of simply assuming that they are. I mean, I've been accused of being pre-made with someone who was being flamed just because I stood up for them [my pre-made was actually flaming xD]

ViiLLAiN1 votes

you play in EUW not NA thats the difference right there

Mdluli1 votes

xD I've often heard that EUW is the worst, but I guess everyone feels that way about their their own server. Grass is greener on the other side kinda thing...

Mdluli1 votes

I see what you guys are getting at, but remember that pre-mades can only give 2 votes max. Also, you vote for the **enemy **team MVP and LVP; not your own. So you don't need to worry about your toxic teammates or trolls voting you LVP.

redfeenix1 votes

I think using overwatch idea of voting for good players after the match is a sweet idea. However I think IP gains is a more suitable reward rather than LP. IP doesn't affect rankings and LP gains can be abused, plus it won't be fair for ranked integrity.

IP gains for a single player per game, that's cool though. Also players aren't forced to vote. So if you don't wanna vote for anyone you don't have to.

Interesting idea not sure id it will ever be implemented though.

Mdluli1 votes

Thanks for the feedback! I never even thought of using IP instead. Sounds pretty interesting for normal games. I'm just not sure if players in ranked will care if they lose IP.

Can you explain how the LP gains could be abused and how ranked integrity would be affected? I'd really like to understand those points.

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