PBE Grave's nerfs and my thoughts.

Emperor Time··2 votes·548 views

So the nerfs today on PBE were quite big for Graves. Here they are for anyone who hasn't seen them yet:

Graves Quick Draw (E) - Duration of True Grit lowered to 2 seconds from 4 seconds. Basic attacks again non-minions no longer refresh True Grit duration. No longer stacks up to 4 times. True Grit armor and mr increased to 40/60/80/100/120 from 10/15/20/25/30 "Dashes in a direction, reloading one shell. For 2 seconds, Graves gains True Grit. Basic attack hits lower the cooldown of Quickdraw by 0.5 seconds. True Grit grants 40/60/80/100/120 Armor and Magic Resist."

So basically they made it to where Graves no longer has to cast his E multiple times to get the full effect, but they removed the refreshing of True Grit on auto's. IMO this is a bad change for Graves. True Grit has always been kept on auto attacks and this kills a cool thing Graves had. I would rather they cut the Armor and MR in half and then keep the refreshing of True Grit on hit. This way Graves no longer has to cast 4 e's to get max effect, but no longer get's as much out of True Grit. This will kill Graves' late game tankyness, without removing a cool ability. I do agree that Graves needs nerfs, I don't agree in the direction of these nerfs. You could have also targeted Graves' ultimate. Right now it's sitting at a 100s cool down at level 1. It needs to be a 120s cool down at level 1 because this ability will pretty much grant a kill with the insane amount of burst it does. I my self as a Graves' jungle player do not currently value his ult as much as I should.

TL:DR Please Riot, keep True Grit the way it was, but nerf the armor and MR values instead. You can target Graves' op ass ult with a 20s increase to the timer.

(P.S: NERF KINDRED SHE'S BUSTED!)

EDIT UPDATE: Praise the Rito gods Today's PBE update (3/25/16); Graves Quickdraw ( E) [looks like reverts back to live functionality]

8 Comments

Malix Farwin2 votes

good, he needs nerfs.

Emperor Time1 votes

I know he needs nerfs, but these are not the nerfs he needs. In certain situations this end's up being a buff.

Madra1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Emperor Time,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8A0uEQhd,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-03-24T20:41:26.230+0000)

I know he needs nerfs, but these are not the nerfs he needs. In certain situations this end's up being a buff.

But it's not a buff when he's got Steraks popped, Maw popped and he's 1v5ing your team; so I think we're going to be good.

Variks the Loyal1 votes

True Grit is still refreshed on autos-vs-champions, but falls up at twice the speed.

I'm worried this will hurt his jungle sustain pretty hard, but I'm not worried about his combat capabilities.

Emperor Time1 votes

No True Grit refreshing off champions is what was said got removed in today's PBE patch.

Variks the Loyal1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Emperor Time,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8A0uEQhd,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-03-24T20:52:31.942+0000)

No True Grit refreshing off champions is what was said got removed in today's PBE patch.

My mistake, I thought it specifically meant jungle monsters, not champions.

Emperor Time1 votes

It's cool dude no problem.

Mr Broken Wings1 votes

Nerf Graves more, I am speaking for every melee in this game who has litterally no counterplay to his 1 v 1 build. I mean I am fine wtih him killing me when he does hit his q in a trade, but not by simply going close to me and aaing me to death even if I somehow managed to get an early lead with a jungler gank. Its just unhealthy, hope they nerf him out of toplane with the next nerf, I am sick of him, I like to lane against cancer quinn in comparison and thats saying something.

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