Hextech Gunblade's active is too powerful and needs to be looked into

Lakinther·1/24/2020, 11:12:30 PM·17 votes·8,652 views

To a squishy target, that active deals 1/5th of the targets hp and it is accompanied by a 40% slow for 2 seconds. For the item's core users, its already very strong due to the healing and the active makes it blatantly broken. Think about Akali. If you can start a fight by removing 1/5th of enemy adc's hitpoints and follow that up with an execution on R, its gonna feel really bad for the ad carry player. Akali has been receiving constant nerfs since the rework, but her core item was never touched. Yet to this day Akali remains OP, atleast in high elo/competitive. Akali hasnt always been the only abuser tho. Remember ap Ezreal last season? The reason why Ezreal's Ap ratios got nerfed was that Ezreal players started building hextech gunblade and it was actually just broken. Come mid game, after landing your W, you could proc it with your E and add the Hextech gunblade active damage, and the target would lose 75% of their hp. And after the slow, a followup Q was easy to hit. Again, Ezreal's ratios were nerfed ( which i actually don't have a problem with, but this is to show the point ) but the item that enabled that playstyle was not touched. A third example would be Katarina. While she is not playable in competitive, in soloq she can be quite okay, in especially diamond and underand again that hextech gunblade active is just too good in helping her slow down opponents and burst them and often leaves targets helpless.

Maybe removing the slow from the active would be enough ( i dont think so, but it would be worth investigating ). Either way i would wanna see riot experiment with nerfing/removing the active and in return compensating the champions when necessary. Perhaps without that it would be way easier to balance a champion like Akali. In any case, i cant recall a single instance when the item was core for a champion that was in a healthy spot. We can all agree that Akali has been broken. Everyone who remembers Hextech Gunblade Ezreal can attest to it being absolutely broken ( the ap ratio nerfs even prove it). To fix Katarina's problems you need to rework her, but she aint in a healthy spot either.

Please, experiment.

21 Comments

WoonStruck1/24/2020, 11:28:11 PM5 votes

You forgot about how much of a problem gunblade made kayle.

Śhunpo1/25/2020, 5:51:07 AM3 votes

Just remove it from the game.

From your friendly neighbourhood Katarina one trick

TomiMan71/25/2020, 11:10:56 AM2 votes

Remove the slow, nerf the dmg to start with. Then maybe imcrease by 100 gold.

Sire Hippington1/25/2020, 4:40:07 PM2 votes

I think the entier hextech item line could use to loose quite some damage on the effects. Shift that power into either hybrid stats or sustain for gunblade, slow/duration on GLP, and mobillity/CD or just better stats(preferably hp) on protobelt. We already have ludens and lichbane for additional sources of burstdamage, the hextech items should be more about utillity instead of burst.

Glory971/25/2020, 3:47:45 PM1 votes

It's a super nieche item. There are only 3 champions that buy it: Akali Katarina Kayle . But those 3 who buy it are super reliant on gunblade. It's their core-item for pretty much all situations. It's the bread and butter for these 3 champions.

I know the average soloqueue player hates all 3 of these champions, so wouldn't it be awesome to make all 3 of these champion pretty much unplayable and nobody else is affected? Great plan, but it won't work. Riot will go to any lenght to put out "compensations buffs" to keep at least 2 of them viable. Don't you know how many skins katarina and akali have?

So if the champions who buy gunblade get enough compensations buffs that they are still very strong in the meta, removing the item doesn't even make that much sense. You might aswell ask for some akali and katarina nerfs, that those 2 definetly deserve right now.

kda akali1/25/2020, 5:05:49 PM1 votes

Remove item 3144 from its buildpath and make the gunblade active just an auto attack enhancer like revolver active

It should be like the AP version of item 3147 without the unseen thingy