both of those champions are straight up broken. yes yes i know that pyke is the golden boy of yours but you cant justify not nerfing him for much longer so do it ASAP. I dont want to start every single game with a preach asking my team to ban them, while i ban akali ( maybe not anymore but the balance team managed to buff Evelynn so she probably takes the spot )
Ceptos4 votesYuumi hasn’t been much of a problem for me, but Pyke is pretty much still everywhere - and is still a wincondition champ.
Yuumi gets shattered by blitz/thresh, but yeah I mean Pyke is overtuned.
Just an annoying champ that you should ban if you dislike playing against them. But yes, I assume you in Grandmaster I see a Pyke every 2-3 games when open.
Devilreaper XIII1 votesYuumi hasn’t been much of a problem for me, but Pyke is pretty much still everywhere - and is still a wincondition champ.
Yuumi gets shattered by blitz/thresh, but yeah I mean Pyke is overtuned.
Just an annoying champ that you should ban if you dislike playing against them. But yes, I assume you in Grandmaster I see a Pyke every 2-3 games when open.
i destroy pyke with a zilean, but yuumi is just way too much, that lazy ass champ sitting there spamming abilities needs a full deletion, there is no gameplay involved with yuumi -.-
Keiaga1 votesLol, that's a whole lot of champs you're whining about all at once.
Ephixus2 votesLol, that's a whole lot of champs you're whining about all at once.
And you probably playing all of em.
Keiaga2 votesWell, you could check with a simple search of my name, but from your opinions it's pretty clear you prefer being willfully ignorant
Ephixus2 votesWell, you could check with a simple search of my name, but from your opinions it's pretty clear you prefer being willfully ignorant
Like your simple ignorance about the post. So whats the point?
Keiaga2 voteslol. are you actually just repeating words at me to try to argue ad hominem? Even you must be smarter than that.
Pyke and yuumi aren't broken. Neither are Akali and evelynn for that matter.
Try defending your opinion without repeating the words "ad hominem" back at me.
Ephixus1 voteslol. are you actually just repeating words at me to try to argue ad hominem? Even you must be smarter than that.
Pyke and yuumi aren't broken. Neither are Akali and evelynn for that matter.
Try defending your opinion without repeating the words "ad hominem" back at me.
You making no sense out of context, comparing an assassin kit and ap scaling with AP bruiser.
If you think you're smart, work for Riot, mr. fking genius.
SpyKayle2 votesWell, you could check with a simple search of my name, but from your opinions it's pretty clear you prefer being willfully ignorant
But they didn't display any opinions with that message, unless you clicked on their board's name and looked at their recent comments. I must admit though, people whine a bit too much. It's a tad sad. I'm kind of one of them.
Keiaga2 votesboth of these champions(pyke and yuumi) are straight up broken
That's not an opinion?
SpyKayle2 votesThat's not an opinion?
That is. But the person who you were responding to is not the poster. Unless it's them on a different account, which I highly doubt.
Keiaga1 votesI'll take the L on this one. Ephixus isn't the OP I was replying to at first. I just got mixed up because he's been ignorant in a few of his other opinions in other threads this night. My mistake.
SpyKayle1 votesI'll take the L on this one. Ephixus isn't the OP I was replying to at first. I just got mixed up because he's been ignorant in a few of his other opinions in other threads this night. My mistake.
Got em. My shitty jokes aside, it's fine. It honestly happens to the best of us, just wanted to point that out to you.
Mrs Qtpie1 votesLol, that's a whole lot of champs you're whining about all at once.
They are all blatantly broken on the basis that they have no-counterplay mechanics built into their kit.
Keiaga3 votesYuumi - Attaches to her ADC. Laning phase is extremely weak to all-ins because she doesn't provide her own auto-attacks and likely causes a "2v1 and then 1" situation. Heal is relatively weak compared to other heals(even at low health), Q is weak compared to other poke supports. The best she can do is attach to a hyper scaling yasuo/yi that was already running away with the game. She's literally the lowest win% support in every elo.
Evelyn - Full AP assassin. very weak early game, can be invaded, and has difficulties ganking unless her target is pushed up completely to her tower. Doesn't do a lot of damage until late game, in which case team laning phase is over, and team fights are common. Her charm is immediately visible to the enemy team as soon as she casts it, and needs a few seconds before it activates(giving the target plenty of time to reposition in the middle of their team), and even when it procs, they know which direction you're coming from. Also immobile without her ultimate, which she needs for the damage.
Pyke - Squishy "support" assassin, which means he won't be as strong as a normal assassin, which requires getting ahead to be a real threat. Has a hook and a dash on a long cooldown, which means that if he uses it offensively, he doesn't have a reliable escape if you're close enough to him and he can't go invisible. His ultimate also has a narrow window of life to be an execution and any sort of heal can mess up his timing.
Akali - She's already getting nerfed into the ground. Other than that, build any sort of MR item and use AoEs. DoTs also still affect her in stealth, and even help reveal her while stealthed. Her shroud also has a long cool down, giving you a wide window to attack her while she's weak.
Gee, it's almost like annoying isn't omnipotent or something.
Mrs Qtpie2 votesYuumi - Attaches to her ADC. Laning phase is extremely weak to all-ins because she doesn't provide her own auto-attacks and likely causes a "2v1 and then 1" situation. Heal is relatively weak compared to other heals(even at low health), Q is weak compared to other poke supports. The best she can do is attach to a hyper scaling yasuo/yi that was already running away with the game. She's literally the lowest win% support in every elo.
Evelyn - Full AP assassin. very weak early game, can be invaded, and has difficulties ganking unless her target is pushed up completely to her tower. Doesn't do a lot of damage until late game, in which case team laning phase is over, and team fights are common. Her charm is immediately visible to the enemy team as soon as she casts it, and needs a few seconds before it activates(giving the target plenty of time to reposition in the middle of their team), and even when it procs, they know which direction you're coming from. Also immobile without her ultimate, which she needs for the damage.
Pyke - Squishy "support" assassin, which means he won't be as strong as a normal assassin, which requires getting ahead to be a real threat. Has a hook and a dash on a long cooldown, which means that if he uses it offensively, he doesn't have a reliable escape if you're close enough to him and he can't go invisible. His ultimate also has a narrow window of life to be an execution and any sort of heal can mess up his timing.
Akali - She's already getting nerfed into the ground. Other than that, build any sort of MR item and use AoEs. DoTs also still affect her in stealth, and even help reveal her while stealthed. Her shroud also has a long cool down, giving you a wide window to attack her while she's weak.
Gee, it's almost like annoying isn't omnipotent or something.
I read your entire post. I think you get this, but I just want to clarify to be sure: I am not saying that these champions are strong; I am saying that they have no-counterplay mechanics. Being invisible is a no-counterplay mechanic; why? Bcause if I cannot see you I cannot react to you. You bring up in the case of Eve that their is an indicator that she is near you while stealthed; why does it matter? Lets say I am not with my team. Where do I run? Which direction? How do I react to her? As for invulnerability... it isn't necessarily broken, but the way they implemented it in Yuumi's kit is. Yuumi has an extremely strong mid-late game: she heals; she offers strong buffs to a carry; she slows enemies. She is someone who, like Soraka, you need to be focusing in a late game team fight, because if you don't the utility she offers will be too overbearing. Now imagine that you just couldn't kill Soraka until the other 4 members of her team are dead, and that's Yuumi. Yes her winrate is low, which indicates she is weak. But when a low winrate is concurring with a high ban rate, that is the hallmark of a broken champion, because the player base is saying "I don't care that facing x champion is a free win, I just hate playing against it so much I need to ban it." As you know, people tend to dislike playing against champions with no counterplay. That is why Yuumi, Pyke and Akali - who the op and I mention in our posts - all share this low w.r - high b.r ratio.
Keiaga1 votesI gave you counterplay to all of these champs. Counterplay to any champ is learning how to exploit their weaknesses. You know, how to 'play' to 'counter' them.
You can't target akali when she's invisible, but have you thought about fighting when her shroud is on cooldown? The cooldown is massive too. At all ranks.
Evelynn is an assassin with a permanent movement speed boost and stealth. But she's actually the most useless assassin when it comes to picking a target in the middle of a group. So if you don't have any MR, don't extend if you know she's ahead. Its the simplest strategy.
Yuumi is a single gimmick rolled into a champion. Attaching to someone and giving them AD/AP is all she's good for. Even Lulu, sona, and Janna can grant people more damage. Everything she does, Sona does but with faster cooldowns and higher scaling. Her heal is abysmal. Her Q and her ult aren't even good compared to other poke supports like Zyra or Brand. It doesn't matter if she attaches to people and has to be the last one to be killed since she provides so little support for her team.
Just because a champion has an annoying gimmick, or forces you to change your own personal strategy to beat them, doesn't mean that there's "no counterplay"
Devilreaper XIII1 votesYuumi is a single gimmick rolled into a champion. Attaching to someone and giving them AD/AP is all she's good for. Even Lulu, sona, and Janna can grant people more damage. Everything she does, Sona does but with faster cooldowns and higher scaling. Her heal is abysmal. Her Q and her ult aren't even good compared to other poke supports like Zyra or Brand. It doesn't matter if she attaches to people and has to be the last one to be killed since she provides so little support for her team.
her heal is OP, she heals at least 80% hp back, her shield takes in 100% damage from 2 champions ults included seen this numerous times, her poke is annoyingly strong, it seems only players on euw can play yuumi properly.....
Keiaga1 votesAt max rank(and most players level it up last) it has a cooldown of 14 seconds and heals for a maximum of 141 + 40% ap. This is assuming the target has 1%HP
So keeping it simple and assuming yuumi has 100AP, she can burst heal for 362 hp. In 14 seconds that would be 503 HP.
Meanwhile soraka heals 200+60%ap. 260 HP. No matter how much life the target still has. Which is almost as much as yuumis burst. It only takes 2 seconds for soraka to heal as much as yuumis burst heal. By the time yuumi can heal for 503HP soraka has healed 1820. Four times as much.
But lets keep going.
Considering that an ADC has around 2000 health at max level, and theres no way an adc is going to last 14 seconds in any fight, youll only be healibg them for about 15% of their health MAXIMUM.
So when you say "she heals for 80%" of anyones health back, youre too wrong to be mistaken. Youre just lying.
And her shield is even worse
MooooooooreDakka1 votesI agree with your math for the most part but you're forgetting % heal boosts, athenes, and cdr.
Keiaga1 votesIm also "forgetting" that all of these yuumi heals would only be this strong if the adc was constantly at 1HP. Theyd be even weaker if the ADCs health was any higher
MooooooooreDakka1 votesTrue. Your math still stands anyway since you were comparing it to Soraka under the same conditions but I think Athene's is worth mentioning since whenever I burst heal someone for a ton of health with Yuumi it's usually due to that. Yuumi also ends up with slightly higher ap than a similar support would due to her w passive but once again that doesn't have a huge impact on your math.
nm10101 votesHer heal is capped at 80% missing health, so not 1 HP. Plus you have her at 100 ap when she would likely have that from the adaptive stats she gets from her host alone. Assuming reasonable numbers, she can have 2 stacks of a roughly 400-450 heal late game.
Her passive shield alone at that point is also ~600. That is far from weak.
Keiaga1 votesWhether it's 80% missing health or 1HP, the math is the same.
An The average build on an adc at full level gets them about 325AD. Let's go 350 to help account for runes. That'd translate into 69 AP. Even if she was gaining 100 AP(which would take attaching to a mage with 600AP) it wouldn't be enough to come anywhere near the amount that Soraka heals.
nm10101 votesWhether it's 80% missing health or 1HP, the math is the same.
You downplayed her usefulness by being disingenuous about the healing cap. Regardless of the math, which you also did in a very dishonest way, you are trying to downplay her power instead of having a good faith discussion.
An The average build on an adc at full level gets them about 325AD. Let's go 350 to help account for runes. That'd translate into 69 AP. Even if she was gaining 100 AP(which would take attaching to a mage with 600AP) it wouldn't be enough to come anywhere near the amount that Soraka heals.
A support that gives significant shielding and adaptive force doesn't out heal dps the queen of heal dps. Surprised pikachu face. The point is you undershot her "burst" healing by almost 600 health and disregarded her shield as "even worse" than her healing when it is also a solid defensive option.
Keiaga1 votesGo back and do the math again. Let's make it simple and cancel out every item, rune, and hypothetical target that Soraka can either build or pick herself.
Even if you gave yuumi an extra 100 AP based on her attached partner, it's not going to come close to healing anyone 80% of their health(or if it does I definitely can't interpret it from Devilreapers "math" up there), or approach Soraka's levels of healing considering she has better scaling and twice as much base.
If you want to talk about shields let's just pick a few supports known for their shield. Rakan Janna Lux.
Yuumi's can get as strong as 300 + 30% at level 18. at level 13 it's 210, and at level 9 it's 141.
Rakan's is maxed second at 140 + 80%. Which means that at the same level, Yuumi's shield only has 70 more base health, and 50% less ap scaling.
Janna's is 220 + 70% and maxed second or first. compared to Yuumi's 141 or 210 base. No contest.
Lux's is 300 +60% and maxed last. Same base, double scaling.
Every tool Yuumi has for poke, shields, healing, and CC are mediocre compared to any other poke, shield, or healing champ. In fact, Sona does everything Yuumi does, except her range and ratios are better across the board.
Her single benefit over any other support is solely her gimmick of attaching to a carry and giving them stats. Which i said from the very beginning, and which is reflected with her being the worst support champ with 43% winrate.
nm10101 votesPeople get one "nice" answer, after that I stop dealing with people trying to bullshit. You know that comparing one champion to multiple champion is being dishonest at best, straight up lying to try to make a point at worst. You also know that 322 + 80% ap is a perfectly competitive heal amount (138 + 40% at rank 1), especially with a fat shielding ability on top of it and hundreds of added dps for a carry late game. This doesn't include her other advantages such as untargetability, double combat summoners, and no need to purchase boots.
As for why her winrate is low, probably a combination of inexperienced players, unique play style, high pick rate, and high ban rate. 25% of plat+ players are still building fucking boots on her.
Keiaga1 votesComparing a champion to others is dishonest now? That's how you judge the value of anything. Let's run through what sort of niche she fills in a team.
She doesn't make a good poke support.
She doesn't make a good sustain support.
She doesn't make a good peel support.
She'd make a decent, easy to play jack-of-all-trades support except for the fact that Sona is stronger in every way.
Even now you're trying to call a 50+30%ap shield "fat". That would be less than a single auto attack from an adc.
Like I said a couple times now, her single saving grace is tied to her gimmick of attaching to people and giving them stats.
Devilreaper XIII1 votesComparing a champion to others is dishonest now? That's how you judge the value of anything. Let's run through what sort of niche she fills in a team.
She doesn't make a good poke support.
She doesn't make a good sustain support.
She doesn't make a good peel support.
She'd make a decent, easy to play jack-of-all-trades support except for the fact that Sona is stronger in every way.Even now you're trying to call a 50+30%ap shield "fat". That would be less than a single auto attack from an adc.
Like I said a couple times now, her single saving grace is tied to her gimmick of attaching to people and giving them stats.
i remember fighting yuumi once on the rift and me and the adc doing NO damage to the opponent adc whatsoever due to yuumi's shield .-. so you don't know how to play yuumi its that simple.
ok math time again this time simpler so you can understand it too lol
yuumi at lvl 18 has her shield minimum at 300 + 30% ap, most cap around 400 ap so she would have a shield of 300 + (400 divided by 100 tims 30 = 120) 120 = 420 damage block. with ardent +10% shield, thats 420 divided by 100 = 4.20 4.20 times 10 = 42 420 + 42 = 462 shield add athens to it with max charges thats 250 more thats 462 + 250 = 712 shield
janna at lvl 18 with 400 ap shields 220 + 70% ap so she would have a shield of 220 + (400 divided by 100 times 70 = 280) 280 = 500 damage block with ardent 10% shield, thats 500 divided by 100 = 5 5 times 10 = 50 500 + 50 = 550 shield add athens to it with max charges thats 250 more thats 550 + 250 = 800 shield
janna shields 88 more damage BUT and this is a big but, janna her shield decays after 0.75 seconds and only lasts 5 seconds, whereas yuumi's shield lasts till broken.
(edit) i didn't even add mikael
yuumi = 712 + 20% = (712 divided by 100 times 20 = 142.4) 854.4 shield janna = 800 + 20% = (800 divided by 100 times 20 = 160) 960 shield thats 960 - 854.4 = 105.6 difference. no big deal thats still 1 or 2 auto attacks. again a perma shield of 854.4 vs a 960 shield that lasts 5 seconds. yuumi really isn't weaker than any support with a similar kit.
Devilreaper XIII2 votesAt max rank(and most players level it up last) it has a cooldown of 14 seconds and heals for a maximum of 141 + 40% ap. This is assuming the target has 1%HP
So keeping it simple and assuming yuumi has 100AP, she can burst heal for 362 hp. In 14 seconds that would be 503 HP.
Meanwhile soraka heals 200+60%ap. 260 HP. No matter how much life the target still has. Which is almost as much as yuumis burst. It only takes 2 seconds for soraka to heal as much as yuumis burst heal. By the time yuumi can heal for 503HP soraka has healed 1820. Four times as much.
But lets keep going.
Considering that an ADC has around 2000 health at max level, and theres no way an adc is going to last 14 seconds in any fight, youll only be healibg them for about 15% of their health MAXIMUM.
So when you say "she heals for 80%" of anyones health back, youre too wrong to be mistaken. Youre just lying.
And her shield is even worse
have you ever played or read yuumi discription O.O??????
yuumi has 38 AP lvl 1 thats 30 + (10% ap) 3.8 = 33.8 minimum heal her cd is 0.5 seconds she needs 1 charge which she gets after 18 seconds, so waiting for 18 + 18 = 36 seconds she can heal TWICE in 0,5 seconds....
now lets do real math so lets say xayah, she has a base health of 561 is down to 20% hp which is 112.2 HP which means shes missing 80% HP
lets say she has 38 ap lvl 1 minumum heal is 30 + 10% AP 30 divided by 100 times 80 = 24 30 + 24 = 54 38 divided by 100 times 80 = 30.4 54 + 30.4 = 84.4 84.4 times 2 = 168.8 HP she heals at lvl 1 (don't forget she can hold 2 charges) she gains 1 charge per 18 seconds so if she doesn't heal for 36 seconds she can heal twice in 0.5 seconds .o. 112.2 + 168.8 = 281 HP now xayah is at 50% hp
30 divided by 100 times 50 = 15 30 + 15 = 45 38 divided by 100 times 50 = 19 45 + 19 = 64 64 + 84.4 = 148.4 hp yuumi heals twice in a row in 0.5 seconds interval at lvl 1 .o.
now base it off 250 AP yuumi lvl 18 and xayah 2000 HP lets say 1% hp is left the minimum heal is 70 + 10% AP 70 divided by 100 times 99 = 69.3 70 + 69.3 = 139.3 250 divided by 100 times 99 = 247.5 139.3 + 247.5 = 346.5 xayah + 346.5 + 1 = 347.5 HP left thats 17% hp give or take 100 - 12 = 83% hp left
70 divided by 100 times 83 = 58.1 70 + 58.1 = 128.1 250 divided by 100 times 83 = 207.5 128.1 + 207.5 = 335.6 so yuumi heals 374.5 + 335.6 = 710.1 hp thats a whopping 35% hp she heals
her charges have a 45% cdr meaning she can heal twice each 7.7 seconds its pretty even, now increase that with ardent and mikael .o. thats 30 % more heal now increase both heals with 30% give or take 486.85 + 436.28 = 923.13 hp every 7.7 seconds thats almost 50% now add spirit visage another 30% increase thats 1200 HP the adc recieves thats 60% already and thast just 250 ap..... most would cap at about 400 ap im just saying.
soraka lvl 1 with 38 ap
80 + (60% ap) 22.8 = 102.8 every 8 or 7.6 seconds....... [sg-soraka]
soraka lvl 18 with 250 ap = 200 + (60% ap) 150 = 400 every 2 seconds if enough health so soraka heals 1200 to 2700 hp in the same amount of time with items and loses 3 to 4 times 10% hp doing so..... yuumi loses nothing but some mana, and on top of that yuumi can shield soraka can't, yuumi is untargetable and gives movement speed. at least soraka takes a risk by decreasing her health......
without items soraka heals 400 hp yuumi heals about the same amount give or take 25 hp less lol, sure yuumi can't spam it like soraka but she has a shield on top of it preventing damage as well.
Keiaga1 votesLMAO what? What is this math? NOTHING in the game works like this.
Where are you pulling "100 times 80"? You have no idea how simple percentages work. Youre pulling random AP amounts out of nowhere. Youre adding random items into the mix just to make things more complicated. You have no business trying to do math. with anything
Devilreaper XIII1 votesLMAO what? What is this math? NOTHING in the game works like this.
Where are you pulling "100 times 80"? You have no idea how simple percentages work. Youre pulling random AP amounts out of nowhere. Youre adding random items into the mix just to make things more complicated. You have no business trying to do math. with anything
learn to read, i said divided by 100 and the outcome times 80..... its not that hard to understand, the truth is just so obvious yuumi heals about the same amount as soraka does without any risk...... so you find math complicated? how is this my fault? and no these are not random items, they are items that are often build and improve healing.
Keiaga1 votesYour math isn't complicated. It's wrong. Almost everything about your hypothetical is wrong from relying on multiple items to boost her numbers to apparently not understanding how time works. Even a couple people who are on your side and double checked your math didn't get numbers half as high as the ones you're pulling out of your ass lol
Devilreaper XIII1 votesYour math isn't complicated. It's wrong. Almost everything about your hypothetical is wrong from relying on multiple items to boost her numbers to apparently not understanding how time works. Even a couple people who are on your side and double checked your math didn't get numbers half as high as the ones you're pulling out of your ass lol
oh and where are these numbers that aren't half as high? and where is your math? all i hear from you is hot air [sg-kiko] you are just a yuumi fan trying to defend her..... and please elaborate what is wrong with the math according to you? you do realize it doesn't work the way you talk, you can't just say its wrong, without proving it is, so the math right, unless proven otherwise. heck i even calculated this ingame and came to the exact results the flat bonus ap showed by these calculations, the only thing i didn't do was round up the decimals.
Keiaga1 votesI've already done the math that you seemed to ignore completely. I just didn't try to give the wrong impressions by adding 70 minutes of gathering storm, Athenes, Mikael's crucible on a target with spirit visage and whatever else you're trying to the equation
Devilreaper XIII1 votesI've already done the math that you seemed to ignore completely. I just didn't try to give the wrong impressions by adding 70 minutes of gathering storm, Athenes, Mikael's crucible on a target with spirit visage and whatever else you're trying to the equation
im afraid thats not math, you state some numbers and come to strange conclusions O.o no calculations whatsoever, im not giving a wrong impression im adding actual factors that exist in the game between two champions...... you state yuumi is weak, i proved otherwise.
Keiaga1 votesyou state some numbers and come to strange conclusions
no calculations whatsoever
Oh now I get it. To say that after it couldn't be more clearly spelled out for you, you're just ironically trying to be this stupid. You almost got me but stop trying to waste my time trying to argue points you don't actually believe in. I'm done with you.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesNo counterplay to Yuumi at all? Nothing like fucking engaging on her bitch ass because she can't do shit then?
Here's how you beat Yuumi:
Step 1: Dodge her Q. Just dodge the fucking thing. It's not that hard. Step 2: Don't fucking AFK in her R. Step 3: Engage on her.
There. All the fucking counterplay you need.
Mrs Qtpie1 votesSo you are taking issue with 4 champions in this post: Yuumi, Akali, Pyke and Evelyn. You know what they all have in common? De facto invincibility. You can't target Yuumi while her passive is in use; you can't target Akali in her w; you can't target Pyke in his w; you can't target Evelyn while her passive in use. Now, you might say, "well hey, doesn't invincibility have no counter play, and should therefore be implemented sparingly?" And you'd be wrong, because Riot has the hidden data which tells them it isn't op.... the data of skin sales. So shut your mouth and genuflect to Riot video games. Invisible assassins may be able to 1 shot you before you can see them, but so what? You should have some how outplayed them - DUH! I must respectfully thumbs down (I thumbsed up) your post, sir. Good day to you!
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesWhen you provide an actual reason to nerf 0% winrate champions.
bewarefeeding1 votesI hope yuumi gets picks at worlds so this cancer gets nerfed and can finally have some counterplay
Fear the Kayn1 votesI'm not arguing against a Pyke nerf, but why are people complaining about Yuumi? Her winrate in ALL elos is 45% or lower. Is it just specific matchups that she's strong or something?
The Kombinator1 votesPyke is perfectly balanced, and the fact, that he got the most nerf asking on the boards is just the weaklings whining. Just chain CC him, and nuke in teamfights. It's not like, that this is the counter for around 95% of the champions.
Yuumi also balanced. Just bring ignite+all-in, and you beat her bad in lane phase. And as we know. Win lane-phase means, that you win the game, and if not, then it's your team's fault.
Malix Farwin1 votesI wouldnt hold my breath on Yuumi nerfs she is sitting at 44% WR.
Pika Fox1 votesYuumi is easy to deal with; she is great at getting champs with little mobility onto you, but she is garbage at keeping her champion alive unless they can survive a while themselves.
If she is with an adc bot lane, play agro. Any kill on the adc is an almost guaranteed double, and she cant do much to keep you off the ADC. Her healing is really subpar without items, and isnt maxed until last unless she is building heavily defensively, in which case most of her usefulness is wasted.
Pyke is mostly a reaction check. Flash or otherwise dodge R and he becomes entirely useless. Likewise, he also lacks any capability to protect his adc, so you can freely target them. He also lacks most of his damage until 6.
