Why should anyone be executed by a non-skill shot?

HidaIgo·Nov 28, 2017·1 votes·872 views

You are in a team fight as Zed, you ult, get a triple kill, juke other players, and the enemy is following you. You out play them and port back to your shadow, but Shaco keeps following. You have 10% health and you have gotten away. Think again! Shaco throws his dagger, you can't side step so you get shut down. It was an amazing Shaco out play!

My thought is that a non-skill shot should never execute or hard cc you, it should leave you with 1 health to be killed with auto or a skill shot -- a real skill shot.

20 Comments

Sona PingNov 28, 20175 votes

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You are in a team fight as Zed, you ult, get a triple kill, juke other players, and the enemy is following you. You out play them and port back to your shadow, but Shaco keeps following. You have 10% health and you have gotten away. Think again! Shaco throws his dagger, you can't side step so you get shut down. It was an amazing Shaco out play!

My thought is that a non-skill shot should never execute or hard cc you, it should leave you with 1 health to be killed with auto or a skill shot -- a real skill shot.

" Why should anyone be executed by a non-skill shot? " So you're proposing, with that example, that Zed's ult should never be able to kill those players like that because it is not a skillshot.

Well personally, I don't agree with that but perhaps some others might.

Final Spark LuxNov 28, 20172 votes

Zed player complaining about things that lack skill expression...lol. Let's be honest, that teamfight you speak of lasted all of 5 seconds, 3 people got melted, and you just ulted back to your clone once. That's all every game is now. I hardly think shaco having his only reliable source of damage be a point and click spell is a problem. At least it can't hard CC you.

nm1010Nov 28, 20172 votes

You used improper grammar in the poll and it is likely confusing people, the way you have it structured it reads

"Shouldn't skill shots execute or hard cc" To which I answer yes

If you wanted to use the same words and have it make sense it would look like this

"Should not skill shots not execute or hard cc" To which I answer no

That sounds awful though so I would suggest

"Should point and click skills not execute or hard cc" To which I answer no

DariusDemiurgeNov 28, 20171 votes

Yeah lets make the game totally in favor higher mobility champions. End sarcasm.

RebonackNov 28, 20171 votes

Targeted spells pay range for reliability.

BhagswagNov 28, 20171 votes

Alright, if this is the only way to bring back Kalista then so be it.

EriduNov 28, 20171 votes

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Zed geniusNov 28, 20173 votes

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i think pantheon should be a skillshot again but thats me.

how can a champion be a skillshot

EriduNov 28, 20171 votes

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Nick Da ChipNov 28, 20172 votes

Generally it's a good idea to use proper English to have your ideas taken seriously. It's also hilarious that you called pantheon a skill shot so it's good he brought it up.

EriduNov 28, 20171 votes

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Nick Da ChipNov 28, 20171 votes

No one actually thinks you think pantheon is a skill shot. It just sounds funny.

I mean you are right, this isn't a professional anything, whatever that means, so it doesn't matter how you speak. People just respond better to proper grammar. It's up to you wether you want people to take you seriously or not. It's not like you are throwing out a long thesis anyways, so it definitely doesn't matter. You really are taking this too seriously.

EriduNov 28, 20171 votes

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Nick Da ChipNov 28, 20172 votes

One could argue simple people don't use proper English.

EnderspiderNov 28, 20171 votes

there are players in this game that are not as skilled as you are and have a hard time landing skillshots on others that know how to sidestep. Also most non-skillshot executes(with exceptions of course Malzahar Ryze Veigar ) and crowd control abilities are very short ranged. Take maokai w for instance and compare it to a zac E. Or compare garen R with urgot R. There is a big difference there

Chembaron YamadaNov 28, 20171 votes

Kalista Alright, so her E, which resets if it kills a unit, should not be able to kill.... Annie Same for her Q. Gangplank Or his Q, which grants gold if it kills a unit. R shouldn't hard CC....would probably make it the worst ultimate in the entire game. Tristana R shouldn't push away.... what exactly is it supposed to do then? Zed R shouldn't kill the target.

Point&click abilities are not inherently problematic. You are just frustrated that you died there, that's no reason to remove these skills from the game.

Nanuk PihoqahiakNov 28, 20171 votes

Are you honestly complaining about Shaco's only form of real damage? Unless you're baited into a nest, he's an assassin that ACTUALLY has to work for kills, despite what the boards might whine about.

I am PacmanNov 28, 20171 votes

My thought is that a non-skill shot should never execute or hard cc you, it should leave you with 1 health to be killed with auto or a skill shot -- a real skill shot.

You do realize that auto attacks aren't skill shots either right? They are undodgeable targeted damage.